Al Czervik

Agreed. Let's do what we can to get it there. Glad to hear the majority like it. Kudos and thanks on the 2000 8 days prior. Think that helps us all.

bigscrillywilli

I think a big problem is the ability of the agents (or inability or unwillingness) to list AA pilots or off-line at the gate. Usair had it, several others do as well. I never had issues before, you show up to gate with plenty of time and they ran your Cass and you're in the system. I would also list in the back to make it easier. The "union" needs to approach the company about changing the we list and check in any pilot for a Jumpseat. I know, I know......that's not how it was done in the DC-8 days!

aewanabe

As an offline guy that works with your (APA) committee frequently, you just about hit the nail on the head regarding the agents. I have roughly 5 reports from my guys about their treatment by AA agents for every 1 involving another large carrier.

As for your union, whatever you may think of APA I can assure you that your Jumpseat committee is butting heads with AA managementon a regular basis, even as they are trying to improve the overall relationship. I'll be so bold as to say APA's committee has earned the rep as being the best, most responsive of the Legacy carriers by a long shot. Their hard work even for offline guys is appreciated, even though with AA's employee/management culture they are working with 1.5 hands tied behind their backs.

meyers9163

APA is to blame for that CHANGING and AA computer system being more outdated then what US had...... Those are the facts

aa73

Whatever ya say boss. Send the blame any which way you want, we'll keep putting out the fires on your behalf. That's how we roll :-)

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APA natl j/s cmt

PRS Guitars

I appreciate the work. I really believe that middle level management and LAA gate agents are the problem here, certainly not our JS comitee. It's also not Parker/Isom/Kirby, because we didn't have these problems before under their leadership, (we used to even be able to gate valet our bags!)

Somewhere along the line the LAA gate agents were able to shirk their responsibilities off and force OAL guys to make a phone listing. They also were able to foster a culture among the pilots (my impression here) of taking the JS when traveling PS, again to make their job easier.

It sounds like aa73 and our JS comitee are doing good work fighting this. Of course, the IVR vs seniority issue is a whole other issue.

I don't really think it helps for LUS guys to throw spears though, it's just getting old.

ATR35

The point to me isn't to blame the APA at all or is the problem within. The issue is the same as it was at US Airways. Management doesn't care how awful things are for the employees as long as the bottom line is met ($$$). The Jumpseat mess is caused by their D-0 emphasis or whatever it's called this week. They are running the worlds largest commuter airline and it's starting to show. Don't think that this embarrassing mess is going to end anytime soon. Maybe with new management but I wouldn't get your hopes up. Like I said APA isn't to blame. Look no further than our management. Think about these disasters next time you consider doing the company a favor.

Thedude

Most (if not all) of the spears that I have seen thrown were in defense of the L-US j/s system. Worked well enough that other companies copied it.

meyers9163

And the only thing that has changed is a name... APA and nAAtive gate agents who think they rule the world..... Heck that last APA blast was a complete joke anyways... The references were strictly for LAA pilots and forgot the LUS guys don't have the same ways to check things that they do.... Guess they forgot there's about 5000 pilots who aren't LAA in which they also represent.....

Fact is at least for LUS employees prior to the merger there never was an issue listing for a flight and walking straight down to the plane when full and requesting the ride.... And knowing they were going regardless of WB or any other issues... This whole AA system where a pilot going home from training etc being able to bump a Primary etc is absolute insanity.... And why wasn't that ever corrected prior to this merger? Probably along the lines of, "That's how its always been."

At least its no longer Parking break parked Small victories i guess...... Maybe one day it'll be an Aircraft again and not a Jet

PRS Guitars

"Jet" is an Air Force thing, at least fighter community, I'm completely guilty of it. It's not intended to be conceited or cocky, it's just quicker to say than aircraft. I Didn't know it bugged people until recently. Though we do use "aircraft" when transferring aircraft control.