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Old 11-23-2016, 02:13 PM
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Curious thoughts on leaving SWA for AA. Seems that advancement would be one of the biggest advantages due to retirements, then variety of flying?

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Old 11-23-2016, 02:21 PM
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Where do you live? What are your flying goals? Routes? Aircraft? Etc. Depends solely on personal preference
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Old 11-23-2016, 02:35 PM
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Midwest but not beholden to any one location. DFW would be ideal. I like the idea of different airframes...maybe its just the idea of flying one type for the next 30 years or so? I figure there are many more retirements percentage wise at AA.

There may not be anything more to this than just where I want to live. Flying a 737 or 787/777/350/320 is probably all the same anyway...
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Old 11-23-2016, 03:23 PM
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Midwest but not beholden to any one location. DFW would be ideal. I like the idea of different airframes...maybe its just the idea of flying one type for the next 30 years or so? I figure there are many more retirements percentage wise at AA.

There may not be anything more to this than just where I want to live. Flying a 737 or 787/777/350/320 is probably all the same anyway...
lol, Flying maybe the same, but destinations are a lot different. There's also the benefits ie health, retirement etc, but I don't know much about those
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Old 11-23-2016, 03:25 PM
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Beware the culture. AA is a real cesspool. I think you might be sorry.

If I were you, I'd ask questions about unity, fairness and perception of it amongst the disparate groups that make up the pilot corps, why APA's contracts perpetually lag DL and UA, and individual pilots' overall satisfaction with their working environment and peers.
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Beware the culture. AA is a real cesspool.
Think times are changing. There are some good old farts here but...When the new guys and gals take over the place there will be a great culture. There is a lot of communication and we stick together.
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The grass is always greener.
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Old 11-23-2016, 04:00 PM
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No comparison. AA
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Old 11-23-2016, 04:28 PM
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Talking with a long time n/b FO the other day. Decided to try w/b flying "I'd hate to retire and wish I'd tried it."

He's loving it "it really is a different airline."

Want to stay n/b? In ten years you'd probably be in the top 2-5% in every n/b bid status.

Cesspool? There are guys who will be miserable no matter how good they have it. Others with be fantastic regardless of the miserable circumstances life hands them. One wallows in the cesspool and the other skips by it.
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DFW probably takes two years post new hire. Right now it's about 1.5 years. Several years of reserve. But you'll upgrade in about 8 yrs at the junior base and w/b CA in another 7 yrs.

How much are you giving up in the short term for the long term gains?
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