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Smoke Toliet 12-27-2016 08:22 AM

ALPA Poll
 
Just curious to see where we're at on this...yes/no

aa73 12-27-2016 11:18 AM

Hell yes! Should have been done decades ago. In fact we never should have left.

jcountry 12-27-2016 12:59 PM

The thought of replacing the sign on the doors, keeping the same horrible leadership and paying twice the dues to these ****sticks makes me want to vomit my spleen out.

Al Czervik 12-27-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2270287)
The thought of replacing the sign on the doors, keeping the same horrible leadership and paying twice the dues to these ****sticks makes me want to vomit my spleen out.

True. Need to get rid of these guys.

PRS Guitars 12-27-2016 01:17 PM

My yes answer is predicated on cleaning house at the BOD level and up.

awax 12-27-2016 02:33 PM

You guys can join as long as you bring the APA IT platform.

https://www.alliedpilots.org

:)

ALPA's IT that they provide to the MEC and LEC are so 1998!

Behold! UAL Pilots > UAL MEC Public Page ...and it only gets worse once you log-in! This is what's provided by Herndon, and while you'd think that it'd be easy for an MEC to just go it alone and provide it's own resources, you'd be wrong. ALPA National owns the membership database, and won't share that database to enable "other" technology platforms. So if you want accurate and up-to-date website log-ins for union membership, you have to use ALPA IT.

There are some benefits for pattern bargaining that come with a large national union, but, buyer beware. I think APA could force Herndon to get get it's house in order as a condition of merging, but it would take considerable effort to change the "this is the way we've always done it" mentality. The web site thing is just one example of many, but, considering the current APA demographic, I'm not telling you guys anything new.

beancounter 12-27-2016 08:02 PM

Keep the APA hotel guy. Considering our garbage language in the contract he's been doing a good job improving the hotels.

R57 relay 12-28-2016 06:27 AM

Overall I'd be in favor of returning to ALPA, but I'm not without concerns. Would it be one more thing that divides us? How long would it take and would we be spooled up for section six? Would we have the same structure and just remain bogged down with different letterhead?

There was an interesting idea on C&R. I believe it was changing from base representation to seniority block representation. As I recall there would be one rep for a certain number of guys on the list, thereby greatly reducing the number of reps and blocking the ability of bases to block actions.

Any LAA guys want to chime in on this? Thoughts? Has it ever been tried?

Maybe we should try this before tossing the APA out completely?

Nevjets 12-29-2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by R57 relay (Post 2270604)
Overall I'd be in favor of returning to ALPA, but I'm not without concerns. Would it be one more thing that divides us? How long would it take and would we be spooled up for section six? Would we have the same structure and just remain bogged down with different letterhead?

There was an interesting idea on C&R. I believe it was changing from base representation to seniority block representation. As I recall there would be one rep for a certain number of guys on the list, thereby greatly reducing the number of reps and blocking the ability of bases to block actions.

Any LAA guys want to chime in on this? Thoughts? Has it ever been tried?

Maybe we should try this before tossing the APA out completely?



ALPA MECs have the option of block representation. There are a few that do it that way.

Saabs 12-29-2016 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by beancounter (Post 2270478)
Keep the APA hotel guy. Considering our garbage language in the contract he's been doing a good job improving the hotels.

Agreed. The hotel committee has done an amazing job! Although I must say the LAA SFO long holiday inn blows !

But overall the quality has gone way up, not bad for having no hotel language.


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