Time from New Hire to the Wide-body's
04-16-2017, 07:20 AM
#201
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Originally Posted by Pilotman520
What is a third lister? New hire since the merger?
04-16-2017, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by thedirtysanchez
Thanks for the projections Slice! Can anybody estimate how long it would take a new hire to hold reserve at CLT in the 73/320?
04-16-2017, 08:50 AM
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737 might be forever since it's not based in CLT.
Junior 320 FO went to a Feb 2017 new hire eff June 1st. So he had about 1.5 months after training in MIA or LGA.
What do the financial people have to say "past performance is no guarantee of future performance"? It might be quick, it might be longer. Retirements keep the seat/base shuffle going.
Junior 320 FO went to a Feb 2017 new hire eff June 1st. So he had about 1.5 months after training in MIA or LGA.
What do the financial people have to say "past performance is no guarantee of future performance"? It might be quick, it might be longer. Retirements keep the seat/base shuffle going.
04-16-2017, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
There are age demographics that will change future bidding. Right now CLT and PHL have the greatest percentage of retirements which will allow the quickest upgrades. But the current third listers in CLT and PHL overweight an future manning analysis as third listers end up dominating the seniority list.
Upgrade estimate for a Jan 2017 new hire based on achieving 65% relative seniority in a base using the Jan. 2017 manning -
2022. CLT
2023. PHL
2024. BOS, DCA, LAX, ORD, PHX
2025. DFW, MIA, LGA
All PHX data is suspect due to significant manning reduction.
Upgrade estimate for a Jan 2017 new hire based on achieving 65% relative seniority in a base using the Jan. 2017 manning -
2022. CLT
2023. PHL
2024. BOS, DCA, LAX, ORD, PHX
2025. DFW, MIA, LGA
All PHX data is suspect due to significant manning reduction.
Good numbers. However, I highly doubt one will be able to upgrade into CLT before LGA. Even with all the retirements and shuffling around I'd guess CLT, DFW and ORD will remain relatively senior and LGA/MIA will continue to be relatively junior.
Take me. I commute to PHL. But CLT is the easier commute. For now it's much more senior than PHL so I won't go there. But when the seniority picture changes people's basing choices will change as well.
04-16-2017, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
Good numbers. However, I highly doubt one will be able to upgrade into CLT before LGA. Even with all the retirements and shuffling around I'd guess CLT, DFW and ORD will remain relatively senior and LGA/MIA will continue to be relatively junior.
Take me. I commute to PHL. But CLT is the easier commute. For now it's much more senior than PHL so I won't go there. But when the seniority picture changes people's basing choices will change as well.
Take me. I commute to PHL. But CLT is the easier commute. For now it's much more senior than PHL so I won't go there. But when the seniority picture changes people's basing choices will change as well.
04-17-2017, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
That's about what I figured. I'm an early 2014 hire, and estimate I'll be able to hold bottom G2 captain in DFW around 2022-23 timeframe.
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