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Twin Wasp 11-23-2020 04:12 PM

There are 35 sections in the contract. About half of them have been TAed and those should carry through to the new contract. The only section which has been completed that has a financial affect on crew members is hours of service. So if you’re on a domestic DH the company will put you in business if the trip goes more than 8 hours I believe as opposed to the current 16 hours. I don’t know if they clipped the duty days. I heard one time they were close to working out Vacations, they just needed to finalize how much we get and how much it’s going to pay. There are reports the company finally pushed over their idea of a complete contract that included about a 10% raise but ended the additional pay for working on days off and ended rig pay for time in base. So yes, there will be changes. But I don’t think they’ll be significant.

This is a company that put out an email with 9 sentences gloating about how they’re going to start providing trash bags in the cockpit. Just let that sink in for a bit.

boeingdvr 11-24-2020 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by arcla (Post 3161949)
I was hopeful for some insight from some of the 767 First Officers please.

I have been looking at the (767 CVG) November and December lines and had a few questions.

I see there are quite a few reserve lines based out of Tampa - how senior do those go as they aren't based in CVG? (YES I've read the forum and I know reserve goes senior!! Wondering if that applies when the reserve is not in the actual base?)

There are also numerous split lines that have night stops in Tampa - as the most junior guy on the CVG base would I have any hope of picking those up or does anyone have a rough estimate of when someone would be able to hold those (1/2/3/4 years ?)

Just trying to make an educated decision on Fleet choice. Appreciate any insight.

Reserve out of Base goes the most senior. DH days are paid and less r2/3 days to do. Florida R2/3 goes senior for sure. Spilt lines are great, especially if you live nearby. A new NH probably won’t ever get awarded on initial bid, but try your luck on the VTO and probably grab it there 50/50.

Fillmore Slim 11-24-2020 05:04 AM

[/QUOTE]This is a company that put out an email with 9 sentences gloating about how they’re going to start providing trash bags in the cockpit. Just let that sink in for a bit.[/QUOTE]


This is exactly what I was going to post. Atlas was founded in 1992, and we just got trash bags. 28 years of stealing plastic bags from hotel room closets. It's unbelievable........

Hogcapt 11-24-2020 05:36 AM

This is a company that put out an email with 9 sentences gloating about how they’re going to start providing trash bags in the cockpit. Just let that sink in for a bit.[/QUOTE]


This is exactly what I was going to post. Atlas was founded in 1992, and we just got trash bags. 28 years of stealing plastic bags from hotel room closets. It's unbelievable........[/QUOTE]


Over 100 years of Boeing building airplanes and they still can’t put a garbage can in the airplane either.

Logged 11-24-2020 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2720701)
We are hiring !! Need all the bodies we can find. Come on over, the water is warm.

- 21 day trips around the world. If you want, you can bid back to back for 40 days on the road.
- 4.85 trip rig ( not per day ) half day = half pay.
- Day / night patterns
- day sleeping
- ready reserve from 3am - 9am ( no sleep rooms )
- Union Assement of $50 bucks a month mandatory
- 5 year upgrade on 767
- 1 year upgrade on 737 ( all nighters all the time ) 20 hours a month flying. Need 1k pic before upgrade.
- not a time building airline.
- Min guaranteed 62 hours.
- vacation & training months 62 hours. No way to break 62 unless working on days off
- DH to Asia on the 747 ( 4.85 ) hours of pay
- Atlas has deal with AA and Delta for ultra deep discounted fares. Not easy to accrue points and miles now.
- Most hotels crew member doesn't keep points.
- Plan on 1600 per month for first 5 months as new hire.
- OT is seniority based. New hires rarely get OT.

- We need all hands on deck. Come on over !!

Is it still like this?

ZR29907 11-24-2020 10:29 AM

Funny how a couple of years makes the bad look good, it’s all perspective

zerozero 11-24-2020 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Logged (Post 3162845)
Is it still like this?

The union stopped the assessment.
:)

CRJJ 11-24-2020 04:33 PM

We do keep the points and not all nighters on the 73 anymore, most is day flying :D

boeingdvr 11-24-2020 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3163027)
We do keep the points and not all nighters on the 73 anymore, most is day flying :D


1/2 hotels no points.
union stop assessment

blinkpilot182 11-25-2020 06:52 AM

Atlas / Southern
 

Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 3162534)
Scope, same is my guess. Maybe Blink, Twin or Elevation can wager (start with a beer) on 0%, 5%, 10%, 15%, how about 20% or a whopping 25%, no Gateway, Travel Bank, Chocolate Cake, now I’ve gone too far - although I will say PBJs are making a comeback so there’s that.

I’m not a wagering man, but I’ll take you up on a beer! Haha. I honestly don’t know what to expect in terms of our pay. More than we’re making now is all I’m anticipating. I won’t be putting a down payment on a boat anytime soon, I can tell you that.

I do think we’ll keep gateway. That seemed to be on the chopping block a while ago but talk of losing it has long since died off. Your guess is as good as mine though.

Scope, just like everyone else, is my biggest concern.

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