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CaptYoda 10-24-2021 05:53 PM

Is first-year pay at ATI correctly listed as $87/hr with a 60 hr guarantee versus $117 at K4 with 64 hrs and $128 at Omni? All home-based.

Immapilot 10-24-2021 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by CaptYoda (Post 3313573)
Is first-year pay at ATI correctly listed as $87/hr with a 60 hr guarantee versus $117 at K4 with 64 hrs and $128 at Omni? All home-based.

Yea out of those though, I believe ATI has the oldest contract of the three. ATI also has 13 pay cycles a year vs 12 like the other two

FlyAstarJets 10-25-2021 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by CaptYoda (Post 3313573)
Is first-year pay at ATI correctly listed as $87/hr with a 60 hr guarantee versus $117 at K4 with 64 hrs and $128 at Omni? All home-based.


Originally Posted by Immapilot (Post 3313581)
Yea out of those though, I believe ATI has the oldest contract of the three. ATI also has 13 pay cycles a year vs 12 like the other two

To expand on what Immapilot said, our three year CBA became amendable March 2021. We have been in Section 6 negotiations since, with nearly all the low hanging fruit T/A'd. We're about half (or better) the way through Scheduling which, once finished, will lead us into the big ticket items.

We have 13 pay cycles (28 days per cycle) in a year. If you want to convert that to a traditional 12 month year, the APC given gouge is to add 5 to the guarantee, which in this case would make the guarantee 65 Hours.

CaptYoda 10-25-2021 06:32 PM

Yeah, that pay scale needs to catch up for starters.

RyeMex 10-26-2021 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets (Post 3314019)
To expand on what Immapilot said, our three year CBA became amendable March 2021. We have been in Section 6 negotiations since, with nearly all the low hanging fruit T/A'd. We're about half (or better) the way through Scheduling which, once finished, will lead us into the big ticket items.

Best of luck to you all. Hopefully you can secure some serious improvements to things like DC for retirement and real LTD.

TyWebb 10-26-2021 10:41 AM

Question about home reserve for both companies:

Can anyone at both ATI and Atlas provide some info... what are the rules? Is it junior? Would someone who has a side flexible side gig (non-flying) be able to make a career bidding as such? I want to stay in the industry but looking to fly less than pax 121 carriers.

RyeMex 10-26-2021 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3314310)
Question about home reserve for both companies:

Can anyone at both ATI and Atlas provide some info... what are the rules? Is it junior? Would someone who has a side flexible side gig (non-flying) be able to make a career bidding as such? I want to stay in the industry but looking to fly less than pax 121 carriers.

On the Atlas side, there is very little R1 (home reserve) right now, and there hasn't been much for the past several years.
That being said, at least on the 767, there is plenty of R2 (hotel reserve either in base, or elsewhere) that one can bid. It pays relatively well, and many times you will not fly very much, if that's what you're looking for. I know plenty of guys who have run a side business / done day trading / completed online degrees while sitting at a company-paid hotel for 2 weeks.

With the new CBA being implemented, it's hard to say what might change, however.

TyWebb 10-26-2021 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3314317)
On the Atlas side, there is very little R1 (home reserve) right now, and there hasn't been much for the past several years.
That being said, at least on the 767, there is plenty of R2 (hotel reserve either in base, or elsewhere) that one can bid. It pays relatively well, and many times you will not fly very much, if that's what you're looking for. I know plenty of guys who have run a side business / done day trading / completed online degrees while sitting at a company-paid hotel for 2 weeks.

With the new CBA being implemented, it's hard to say what might change, however.

Thanks for the insight

FlyAstarJets 10-26-2021 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3314212)
Best of luck to you all. Hopefully you can secure some serious improvements to things like DC for retirement and real LTD.

Thanks Rye.
Anyone and everyone within ear shot of me has heard the same.


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