International Jumpseat
 

Wondering if Atlas has started allowing international jumpseaters again? If not, any talk of it coming back or is that forever a thing of the past. I used to Jump ANC-HKG regularly pre-Covid.

Wondering the same thing.

Per our union website, “All Atlas Air International flights continue to be temporarily unavailable to other airline (OAL) jumpseaters at this time due to COVID-19.”

Hopefully this policy will be updated soon.

Any update on this??? Thanks.

Still not allowed. Few governmental restrictions to figure out.

Ok, China I get (HKG). BUT, Europe is basically wide open, as are a bunch of places in South America. Is Atlas run by the PRC, or competing for some kind of prize?

The US opened only very recently. You still need proof of vaccination to some countries in Europe. There's a lot of red tape still left. Hopefully things get back to normal soon.

So what you're saying is that more paperwork might be required... like a visa or vaccines (like Yellow Fever)? Which was common for decades before COVID upended things. At this point a worldwide restriction is just silly.

ok thanks for the response. Hopefully things get sorted soon. Cheers

FRA Jump Seater
 

My Miami adventure is finally nearing its conclusion and if my training schedule holds, I might actually make it home to Germany for my wife's birthday; but only if I bust my but to the airport after my last sim, catch the evening AA flight to ORD, then Jump Seat on our flight to FRA. Would it be uncouth to show up with my roll-aboard, flight case, and a big suitcase? I had to pack for four months, so it is a lot. Also, is the crew van big enough that I might hitch a ride to the hotel where I could then cab it to the train station?

Thanks for any advice or recommendations. If I were to try for a commercial flight from MIA to FRA, I will get home a day after my wife's birthday as my sim is mid-day and the schedules just don't jive.

We have pilots that go on every trip with 3-4 bags probably totaling more than you will have. Don’t worry about it. As for the crew van in FRA, somebody else will have to answer that one.

Appreciate the feedback. New folks are always weary of breaking an unwritten rule. I did see that there is a bus every 30 minutes that runs to the north side of the airport which would get me close to the FernBahnHof; just in case the crew is headed downtown.

Look up who the crew is on that flight in Hawk, then look them up on your PCD under “shared schedules”. You can see what hotel they’re going to…assuming they share their schedule.

Sweet, thanks for the tip. No one was assigned yet, but I'll check once September is published.

Just wondering if there have been any talks about allowing OAL pilots on international Jumpseats.

We’ve been asking to resume allowing OAL international jumpseating for a long time. Management has so far said “no”. Latest communication from the union was that it is still closed, but we “are optimistic that it will reopen sooner than later.”

Any update on this?

No change.

It's kind of ridiculous at this point that there's still an embargo - everywhere except China is functionally open.

Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, Thailand, Singapore just to start with are not open, as in they all require hoops from the operating carrier to verify entry requirements.

At the very least you're misinformed since I live in one of them and been to two of the others without any issues.

Also, are those the only places Atlas flies?

Prove me wrong then. Those countries require the operating carrier to provide information about the COVID and/or vax status of their passengers. They are "open", but not the way you think. Maybe it has changed in the past few weeks, but it's far from ops normal.

Why is it that kalitta can offer OAL jumpseat to Australia, Singapore, Japan and others but Atlas can not?

Which begs the correct question if these countries are “open” is it because Atlas cannot or will not? If it’s will not than it’s above anyone’s pay scales on here. Perhaps it’s a hoarding of seat availability to move our own crews, extra paperwork, time or whatever. Just spitballing mind you and we’ll have to wait for the green light from above.

Which negative do you want me to prove?

I live in Thailand, it's been open for two months with no restrictions, before that minor restrictions which should not have precluded a jumpseat.

Japan? When I went was open with minor requirements that are completed by the pax in minutes. Now, from their latest update, no restrictions at all.

Australia? No restrictions since July.

Others will take you a minute of googling... Is it possible you're doing your own "reesurch" on Twitter again?

Which negative do you want me to "prove"?

I live in Thailand, it's been open for two months with no restrictions, before that minor restrictions which should not have precluded a jumpseat.

Japan? When I went was open with minor requirements that are completed by the pax in minutes. Now, from their latest update, no restrictions at all.

Australia? No restrictions since July.

Others will take you a minute of googling.

Does anyone know who’s doing a route from Miami to anyplace in the EU that’s cargo that OAL can JS on?

http://www.jumpseatinfo.org/AirlineJ...2/Default.aspx

Amerijet Int'l might. Gotta give them a call.

Atlas has MIA - AMS flights once or twice a week. Depends on flower schedules.

Atlas crews, can anyone give a bump to your JS Committee asking about a timeline to allow OAL international? As of now, K4, ABX, ATI and WGA have been allowing them (according to post and listings).

We’d love to see them come back, as crews, we know it’s not the pilots who stopped it.

Thanks for the efforts!

Good point. We do go to more places (internationally) than all the others combined (aforementioned carriers) it would definitely help a lot of folks.

It's really not the JS committee holding things up at this point. The chairman (I'm not sure if he's on these boards) has been pretty clear he fully supports resuming international jumpseating. The entire hold up here is the company.

Hi I am a new bird here. 2 questions
1. Just curious how OAL international jumpseat in 5Y works before COVID, flight deck or seat behind the flight deck door? Coworkers keep telling me FAA only allows us international FD JS in our own metal.
2. Company union said 5Y reopen OAL international JS a couple days ago, any Atlas brother can verify?

Atlas Jumpseat is in the cockpit for 737, 767, unless they have some new configuration with a seat behind the flight deck bulkhead. 747 is in one of the 4-8 seats in the upper deck. On all of them the entire aircraft is the flight deck for TSA rules so you just be CASS current.

I am checking on the status of International Jumpseat. You will be on the International Gendec so there is no issue with it being “your metal” you are considered working crew as a jumpseater.

So did Atlas resume OAL international jump seats?

Not yet. Filler.

It's open now.

Yes.

Pass the word to your friends at our reciprocal agreement airlines. Our updated International Jumpseat policies are as follows:
- International Jumpseat Listings will be made via ID90 (preferred) no later than 24 hours before scheduled departure. No exceptions.
- The International Jumpseater is entirely responsible to have in their possession the proper visas and/or vaccinations required by the country of entry, as a normal passenger would.
- The Jumpseater’s passport must have at least one blank passport page and the passport must not be within six months of expiration.
- Jumpseating into or out of HKG and all of mainland China remains unavailable due to the complexity of their Covid restrictions.
Our captains are NOT responsible for checking jumpseaters’ required country-of-entry documentation, only their required jumpseat credentials and CASS. It must be said though, that a simple reminder to an OAL jumpseater that they are subject to the entry requirements of a regular passenger, and do not fall under any “Crew Exemption” status, would be recommended to not only facilitate a quick customs process upon entry, but also maintain the integrity of our international jumpseating program.

woohoo thank you!!!

I assume the cabin seats are the “old school” first class style/recliner seats?