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2000hr pilot here who's been working their first 135 IFR job (single pilot medevac) now for just under 6 months looking for career advice. After reading through hundreds of Atlas APC posts I thought I'd ask specifically what some of you Atlas pilots thought. I'm thinking of applying to Atlas in the Fall or Winter of 2024.
I'll be ready to try and take my career to the next level near the end of this year after my seasonal pilot job is finished. I should have about 2500 TT, 150 Multi, 600 Turbine PIC and 3 years part 135 experience. I'm looking to be based out of ANC and hoping to get into the 74 if possible. After reading through all the posts here I think I would enjoy the pros and cons of Atlas and having ANC as my base would be preferred. I have a couple questions:
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Going from bush Alaska to a multi-crew Boeing is a big leap. It can be/has been done. However, you will have a very, very steep learning curve that will require max effort. Even though it would suck, I think going to a regional (not RAVN) for six months to get your ATP, a 121 training program under your belt, and a little bit of experience would make your transition to the Whale A LOT easier. Atlas will most likely always be hiring for ANC.
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
(Post 3778301)
Going from bush Alaska to a multi-crew Boeing is a big leap. It can be/has been done. However, you will have a very, very steep learning curve that will require max effort. Even though it would suck, I think going to a regional (not RAVN) for six months to get your ATP, a 121 training program under your belt, and a little bit of experience would make your transition to the Whale A LOT easier. Atlas will most likely always be hiring for ANC.
Like he said, that’s a Giant leap, pun intended. Follow his advice, get on with a Regional, get some jet and IFR time. Speeds, SID/STAR, FMC are all things you’ve never worked with. The 74 training program is not geared towards vertical hiring. I came from a 73 and it was daunting. |
Originally Posted by TiredSoul
(Post 3778311)
ANC is a garanteed first base for 74 new hire.
Like he said, that’s a Giant leap, pun intended. Follow his advice, get on with a Regional, get some jet and IFR time. Speeds, SID/STAR, FMC are all things you’ve never worked with. The 74 training program is not geared towards vertical hiring. I came from a 73 and it was daunting. |
Originally Posted by mauleman
(Post 3778295)
2000hr pilot here who's been working their first 135 IFR job (single pilot medevac) now for just under 6 months looking for career advice. After reading through hundreds of Atlas APC posts I thought I'd ask specifically what some of you Atlas pilots thought. I'm thinking of applying to Atlas in the Fall or Winter of 2024.
I'll be ready to try and take my career to the next level near the end of this year after my seasonal pilot job is finished. I should have about 2500 TT, 150 Multi, 600 Turbine PIC and 3 years part 135 experience. I'm looking to be based out of ANC and hoping to get into the 74 if possible. After reading through all the posts here I think I would enjoy the pros and cons of Atlas and having ANC as my base would be preferred. I have a couple questions:
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Apply. Worst that happens we say no and you try again later. Applying multiple times does NOT go against you at all.
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Advice? Get to a regional yesterday. Doing more of what you're currently doing isn't improving your resume or knowledge base as much as getting a Part 121 jet type rating course, and IOE/LOE + line experience would do.
Apply to Atlas now. Let them decide. Right now you don't even exist. Update your resume at regular intervals (monthly or twice a month). Check out what the regionals offer. Some offer quick upgrades if you have X (500??? 750, or 1000 hrs Part 135 time). Go there and you might be able to do 6-12 months as FO and then upgrade. That's a HUGE improvement over another 500 hrs of single (?) engine TPIC time. Airlines like 500 and especially 1000 hrs TPIC time. But I also had a top guy tell me "we're not getting many of those guys. Or it's PC-12 TPIC time." Hs tone of voice wasn't impressed - seems like they'd prefer jet or at least large turboprop (ATR/Dash 8???) TPIC time. After 500 hrs, or less, in a given job look into moving up the experience, size, speed, Part 135 vs Part 121, resume improvement ladder. Each step will improve your experience and make you better prepared for the follow on job. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by Sliceback
(Post 3778395)
Advice? Get to a regional yesterday. Doing more of what you're currently doing isn't improving your resume or knowledge base as much as getting a Part 121 jet type rating course, and IOE/LOE + line experience would do.
Apply to Atlas now. Let them decide. Right now you don't even exist. Update your resume at regular intervals (monthly or twice a month). Check out what the regionals offer. Some offer quick upgrades if you have X (500??? 750, or 1000 hrs Part 135 time). Go there and you might be able to do 6-12 months as FO and then upgrade. That's a HUGE improvement over another 500 hrs of single (?) engine TPIC time. Airlines like 500 and especially 1000 hrs TPIC time. But I also had a top guy tell me "we're not getting many of those guys. Or it's PC-12 TPIC time." Hs tone of voice wasn't impressed - seems like they'd prefer jet or at least large turboprop (ATR/Dash 8???) TPIC time. After 500 hrs, or less, in a given job look into moving up the experience, size, speed, Part 135 vs Part 121, resume improvement ladder. Each step will improve your experience and make you better prepared for the follow on job. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by astray
(Post 3778426)
While your advice is nice, unfortunately the regional market is not what it was a year ago. Barely anybody is hiring FOs, and even then class dates are pretty backed up. His time as a single pilot medevac also doesn't count towards 121 PIC mins.
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Originally Posted by SgtV
(Post 3778765)
Not sure where that is coming from, most every regional I know of is actively recruiting FOs. Especially if they have 135 turbine time. All the American subsidiaries need FOs now. Otherwise they still wouldn't be offering bonuses for it. Envoy and Skywest are still advertising for FOs with just ATP mins. They prefer DEC qualified, but they still need FOs
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