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Old 11-08-2025 | 09:26 PM
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Rumour has it they are taking 777 back due lack of OTP. Any idea if it's true?
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Old 11-08-2025 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by peterfenwick
Rumour has it they are taking 777 back due lack of OTP. Any idea if it's true?
and give them to whom?

If it’s the case it might be a negotiation tactic
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Old 11-09-2025 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Lionhaart
and give them to whom?

If it’s the case it might be a negotiation tactic
They don’t need Atlas.
Give me one reason why Kalitta/National/WGA/Omni couldn’t operate these aircraft for CMA.
Probably cheaper too.
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Old 11-09-2025 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
They don’t need Atlas.
Give me one reason why Kalitta/National/WGA/Omni couldn’t operate these aircraft for CMA.
Probably cheaper too.
WGA? Lack of ETOPS to start with.
Omni? No cargo infrastructure.
National? No 777 in certificate.

Kalitta might. Who knows if they want to though.
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Old 11-09-2025 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
WGA? Lack of ETOPS to start with.
Omni? No cargo infrastructure.
National? No 777 in certificate.

Kalitta might. Who knows if they want to though.
National is allergic to long-term contracts.
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Old 11-11-2025 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
WGA? Lack of ETOPS to start with.
Omni? No cargo infrastructure.
National? No 777 in certificate.

Kalitta might. Who knows if they want to though.
You may want to check again

https://investors.boeing.com/investo...t/default.aspx

Also seem to recall they bought 777 options from WGA but can’t find the article right now.
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Old 11-11-2025 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
You may want to check again

https://investors.boeing.com/investo...t/default.aspx

Also seem to recall they bought 777 options from WGA but can’t find the article right now.
How many are in operation? 0.

They are supposed to get them in 2026. Time will tell.
Kalitta would be the only one who could start operating them "right now". As long as we have certain individuals running crew planning, our OTP really won't improve much from what it is today.
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Old 11-12-2025 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
How many are in operation? 0.

They are supposed to get them in 2026. Time will tell.
Kalitta would be the only one who could start operating them "right now". As long as we have certain individuals running crew planning, our OTP really won't improve much from what it is today.
That person will delay a flight a week to save 1000$ on a commercial DH… makes complete sense…
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Old 11-14-2025 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
You may want to check again

https://investors.boeing.com/investo...t/default.aspx

Also seem to recall they bought 777 options from WGA but can’t find the article right now.
The first two 777s National are receiving were from the WGA order.
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CMA CGM on Monday said group net income fell 72.6% to $749 million from $2.73 billion on revenue down 11.3% to $14.042 billion from $15.834 billion in the year-ago quarter.

The privately-held company headquartered in Marseilles said results were “significantly impacted” by geopolitics and trade tensions centered in the United States with a corresponding “slowdown in maritime activity”.

Earnings before interest, depreciation, taxes and amortization (EBITDA, or operating earnings) totaled $2.995 billion, a decline of 40.5% from $4.964 billion.

​​​​​​​https://www.freightwaves.com/news/cm...915B8588389A8V
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