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atpcliff 03-16-2015 09:55 AM



Can anyone tell me what kind of total time is competitive right now? What are people getting hired with?
If you have the mins, apply. Guys have gotten hired with the mins.

I talked to a guy in his class the average time was about 5000 hours TT. That was a while ago.

Some guys have gotten hired with no Turbine PIC.

NJAXRated 03-16-2015 10:10 AM

I was offered the position with 0 tpic and about 7000 total. It can be done.

millscd63 03-16-2015 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 1843290)
The guy I talked to, that made more than $210k last year, has a normal monthly line of about 95 hours a month. That is not normal.

So $146*95=$13,870 per month or $166,440 for the year. How did he make an extra $43,000 to get to to 210k without picking up open time? There may have been FO's that made this much but they did a lot of outbasing and open time. It doesn't do anyone any good to throw around BS numbers.

atpcliff 03-16-2015 02:33 PM

I didn't ask the guy...he just told me what he made...it was over $210.

The point here of all this was that some people were saying that Atlas pay is total crap because some FOs at AA/UAL/DAL made more than some Atlas captains.

In reality, Atlas pay is not up to par compared to AA/UAL/DAL, but just because some FOs somewhere made more than an Atlas capt doesn't mean anything, because some Atlas 747 FOs make more than some Atlas 747 captains also.

NightIP 03-16-2015 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by easyflying (Post 1843874)
Night IP I'm not sure if this is what you meant but when you pick up open time it is based on a daily basis. so if on day one I fly 14 hrs. it would be 14+2 if I fly 13 on the second day it would be 27+4, and so on it's the best of rig or actual or schedule block per day on OT.

Unfortunately it's not computed on a daily basis. It's computed like a standard trip. Sec. 3.C.2. I actually had to find that out the hard way when I did a 10 hour leg on a 4-day OT trip last year, and only got paid for 2, 4, 6, 6 plus the rig. The 10 hour leg meant nothing in terms of pay.

easyflying 03-16-2015 07:54 PM

Night ip please re read the section. You can pm me if you'd like too.

NightIP 03-17-2015 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by easyflying (Post 1844223)
Night ip please re read the section. You can pm me if you'd like too.

I assure you it's not a daily calculation, sorry. The credit/rig calculation for the trip is handled the same way as a normal trip: It's totaled at the end, and you get the greater of the two.

captainv 03-17-2015 09:43 AM

easyflying, NightIP - there's only one way to settle this. Jello wrestling.

alpar80 03-17-2015 09:59 AM

Has anyone hand walked a resume into MIA?

DaMoose 03-17-2015 11:00 AM

Alpar80 -

Yep. You need to get all the info to HR through the online system. It's the only way through. It seems that nobody in the company, including management can help push things through. Having an internal rec' seems to be a disadvantage.

Good luck!


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