Allegiant pays more-

Just about everyone now pays more. I have to admit, looking at the new Allegiant TA, and the new UPS TA, etc etc, this is getting really depressing. I also thought that it was a salient point, that our management constantly tells our Union that FDX/UPS are not our competition, thus, we can't expect to paid that way. Yet, the Investor Day earlier this month laid out Atlas' planned shift to becoming an 'International Express' carrier. Right into FDX/UPS backyard. I'm trying to stay positive, but I haven't seen anything like this, and this is my 6th airline. To the newbies who just think we are peddling sour grapes, or the dreaded "well it's better than my regional." mantra. Please, I beg you, have a care. Atlas may be a decent place in the future, but weigh the consequences of a failed type ride/121 event on your record. You are putting your entire shot at the majors in jeopardy by coming here. We have had numerous failures/non-recommends in our recent classes. Stay put, even if you are an FO at your regional. Wait. Stay. Upgrade. Even if you do make it through training...look what awaits you. I AM NOT a negative person by nature, I am actually quite sunny in my disposition. Yet, look at me. Glean what you will.

Thanks for your thoughts. I don't have a degree, no desire to go to the majors, and I'm not a former military pilot so no shot of going to FedEx/UPS. I enjoyed the ACMI life, and Atlas is the best one out there to do it. I want to go there, and I doubt I would ever leave. Guys like me who really want Atlas can't get a shot, and those that are on fence are consistently getting picked up. Maybe I should stop caring.

Am I correct in believing that the next 747 class is 07/18? Anyone been called for it yet?

Allegiant is hiring. Pretty good pay there, now.

Yep! A buddy of mine who wanted me to help him get on with Atlas (to which I told him that he probably should stay put and look elsewhere) just got on with Allegiant. He's better off there!

2870 a month is good pay? I am sorry, got a family to feed. That is just above regional pay. Unless the pay part of the profile on this website hasn't been updated yet. Second year pay is what first year pay should have been.

Iron Maiden: it is amazing how many people like you and I are on this board who want to get on with Atlas and stay, have done the ACMI thing and like it, and don't get a shot.

Some people in my interview group are getting called for that class and 7/11 767 class.

They have a TA with a 30% raise. It's essentially Atlas pay at first then it outpaces Atlas pay dramatically in the latter parts of the scale. Narrow body aircraft. No overnights (that I know of). No body clock homocide. Quick upgrade.