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1st Supersonic 06-09-2010 03:56 PM

Atlas Air Hiring
 
Anyone have any info on Atlas?

TimSmith 06-09-2010 04:13 PM

Nope. Like others, I applied earlier this year and never heard a word from them. No confirmation email, no rejection, nada. May you find a better experience.

HercDriver130 06-09-2010 11:25 PM

do a search here... there are a couple of threads. hiring projected at 100 or so. couple classes in progress. Interviewed in April.

Woodshed 06-10-2010 10:43 AM

I interviewed in April and got an email yesterday that I was in their "Hiring Pool". I guess now they go down the list and call you when their's an available class.

A couple other guys I interviewed with got notified via FedEx that they were not selected.

I guess if you haven't seen a FedEx truck your doing pretty good!!

brownie 06-10-2010 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Woodshed (Post 824355)
I interviewed in April and got an email yesterday that I was in their "Hiring Pool". I guess now they go down the list and call you when their's an available class.

A couple other guys I interviewed with got notified via FedEx that they were not selected.

I guess if you haven't seen a FedEx truck your doing pretty good!!

For rejection letter they should use ups since it fits the profile.:rolleyes:

geeitup1 06-10-2010 02:56 PM

Has anyone heard of a UPS furloughee getting hired, or an interview for that matter?

744driver 06-10-2010 10:38 PM

Congratulations!! I think you are likely getting here in the beginning of a pretty good hiring cycle...I keep hearing we are likely to hire 100+ pilots in the next few months.

skypine27 06-10-2010 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by geeitup1 (Post 824474)
Has anyone heard of a UPS furloughee getting hired, or an interview for that matter?

Read on Flight Info.com that a UPS furlough (or future furloughee) just interviewed at Atlas. It was posted by his friend (or someone claiming to be) and sounded credible. The result of the interview was not available yet.

HercDriver130 06-11-2010 04:11 PM

yep I can verify the Fed ex package is the kiss of death.

v2plus25 06-11-2010 04:34 PM

Don't UPS guys have to resign should Atlas hire them?

T333 06-14-2010 02:54 PM

Got a call
 
Just got called today. I will be in the July class. Interviewed a couple weeks ago.

See you in MIA :)

-T

Likeabat 06-14-2010 03:07 PM

Congrats! Anyone know if the interviews are still on going?

AviatorGP 06-16-2010 09:39 PM

What bases are new-bies likely to get?

HercDriver130 06-16-2010 10:59 PM

Jfk And Hsv

Coopspeed 06-19-2010 05:51 AM

Hsv?
 
What happens in HSV that warrants a crew base?

Coop.

ATCsaidDoWhat 06-19-2010 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Coopspeed (Post 829076)
What happens in HSV that warrants a crew base?

Coop.

HSV is a major point for Panalpina, one of the world's largest intermodal shippers. Ops from there to LUX and elsewhere.

744driver 06-21-2010 06:22 AM

And also the "taco run"...HSV-MEX-GDL-HSV.

We are also doing (once a week, I think) LUX-JNB...

Once you get to LUX, they DH guys over to AMS, FRA, HHN, and then you are most likely to operate ANYWHERE in the world.

Santa 06-22-2010 06:59 PM

Do Atlas pilots have to live in base, or is there a Long/Short Call out period? Someone had mentioned that they get commercialed out of their homes to their bases... is that correct?

Twin Wasp 06-23-2010 01:10 AM

No, you don't have to live in base, in fact living in base can be bad for you. You will have "Gateway" travel AS LONG AS you live more than 130 miles from your base and you live in the lower 48 or Alaska. (I think it's 130, or something close. Hawaii, you're on your own.) The company will provide transportation from your gateway airport to your base to start your trip. The Gateway airport has to have X number of flights a day but there are plenty. The down side is since this is a benifit the company provides you, under some IRS reg, the value of the ticket is considered inputed income and you have income tax withheld against the cost of the ticket. So you didn't ever want to go to your base.

Same thing about hotels in base. If you do get reserve in your base and don't live there, the company will provide a hotel but the cost of the hotel counts as income and you have tax withheld.

You'll probably never see your base in the middle of a line because under Flag regs, when you hit your base, you get doubleout rest. You're down twice the number of hours you've flown since you were last in your base and the company won't want to loose you for 3 or 4 days in the middle of your pattern.

A lot of JFK lines don't really start in JFK. The first leg may be a deadhead to ORD. So the line will pay deadhead pay JFK-ORD but if you live in ATL, the company will just buy you a ticket ATL-ORD.

Santa 06-23-2010 01:32 AM

Interesting... thanks!

Waldo11 06-24-2010 01:07 PM

Anyone have any info / gouge on the Atlas Air Online Technical Assessment?

HercDriver130 06-24-2010 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Waldo11 (Post 831613)
Anyone have any info / gouge on the Atlas Air Online Technical Assessment?

Tougher than most of us expected. though I am sure the info is on this or one of several other boards now. It was 50 questions... with 60 minutes to answer them. once you answer a question you CAN NOT go back and change the answer... you get one shot to mark it correct.

Waldo11 06-24-2010 02:00 PM

What should I be looking at before I start this bad johnny...

sandstorm 06-24-2010 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 830786)
No, you don't have to live in base, in fact living in base can be bad for you. You will have "Gateway" travel AS LONG AS you live more than 130 miles from your base and you live in the lower 48 or Alaska. (I think it's 130, or something close. Hawaii, you're on your own.) The company will provide transportation from your gateway airport to your base to start your trip. The Gateway airport has to have X number of flights a day but there are plenty. The down side is since this is a benifit the company provides you, under some IRS reg, the value of the ticket is considered inputed income and you have income tax withheld against the cost of the ticket. So you didn't ever want to go to your base.

Same thing about hotels in base. If you do get reserve in your base and don't live there, the company will provide a hotel but the cost of the hotel counts as income and you have tax withheld.

You'll probably never see your base in the middle of a line because under Flag regs, when you hit your base, you get doubleout rest. You're down twice the number of hours you've flown since you were last in your base and the company won't want to loose you for 3 or 4 days in the middle of your pattern.

A lot of JFK lines don't really start in JFK. The first leg may be a deadhead to ORD. So the line will pay deadhead pay JFK-ORD but if you live in ATL, the company will just buy you a ticket ATL-ORD.

Can you elaborate a little more on this "gateway" travel please? I live close to ORD and am just wondering a couple things. Is this travel considered part of your trip? Or is it done on your day off without pay? How much time ahead of your report time will they travel you out?

Also, I have a pay related question. Does Atlas have any pay / duty rigs? For instance, if you have a three day layover somewhere overseas, is there any sort of min day pay? Or do you only get paid for the hours you fly?

Thanks for the info.

Twin Wasp 06-24-2010 03:52 PM

There are no trip or duty rigs, just flight time and dead head time, which pays 1 for 3.

The company will position you so that you get rest before you start flying. All patterns start and end in your base. So yes, if you start flying at 6z on day one, you'll have to travel without pay on your day off. Same thing at the end of a line, if you get into JFK at 2200, you'll be going home on your first day off. But if day one is just a limo ride JFK to DOV to be in position to fly on day two, they could ticket you ORD-PHL with a limo to DOV but you'd only be paid JFK-DOV.

sandstorm 06-24-2010 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 831690)
There are no trip or duty rigs, just flight time and dead head time, which pays 1 for 3.

Is there a lot of DH'ing done every month?

I understand first year guarantee is only 50 hours / month. Is it normal for trips to credit that low every month? How many hours per month could a junior FO expect to credit each month?

Twin Wasp 06-24-2010 09:47 PM

Yes, there's a lot of deadheading both on company aircraft and pax flights. I just changed countries between the last post.

It's hard to say what you'll make but it'll probably be a bit over guarantee. I'm on revision 10 to my schedule and I've got a couple days to go. I've been up to 75 hours and down to 52. If nothing else changes I'll credit 59 for June.

charles9 06-24-2010 10:41 PM

Online test
 

Originally Posted by Waldo11 (Post 831638)
What should I be looking at before I start this bad johnny...


It isn't easy...it's kind of obscure. Look at the weather symbols for freezing drizzle (and other items), look at the lighting for rwy end (CL and edge), and look at what constitutes vrb winds, gusting winds in a TAF/METAR. That's what I remember. It was broad.

Interview: phone straight forward. One question: Why Atlas?

Interview MIA: Employment History: Background, favorite job
Technical: TAF, approach brief
Panel: Why Atlas? Bad Captain, Suspect Alcohol, How did you get to flying...etc.

Overall, good interview. Very thorough, very professional. I did not feel intimidated at all. After a couple of days, I realized I had no idea how I did. I think that is/may be good. Why? They want a fit...super long haul and many days gone. Why did I get the offer?...I'm full of BS...LOL.

Honestly, I really wanted it. I think it is a great outfit. Ask me by Christmas.

Waldo11 06-25-2010 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by charles9 (Post 831876)
It isn't easy...it's kind of obscure. Look at the weather symbols for freezing drizzle (and other items), look at the lighting for rwy end (CL and edge), and look at what constitutes vrb winds, gusting winds in a TAF/METAR. That's what I remember. It was broad.

Interview: phone straight forward. One question: Why Atlas?

Interview MIA: Employment History: Background, favorite job
Technical: TAF, approach brief
Panel: Why Atlas? Bad Captain, Suspect Alcohol, How did you get to flying...etc.

Overall, good interview. Very thorough, very professional. I did not feel intimidated at all. After a couple of days, I realized I had no idea how I did. I think that is/may be good. Why? They want a fit...super long haul and many days gone. Why did I get the offer?...I'm full of BS...LOL.

Honestly, I really wanted it. I think it is a great outfit. Ask me by Christmas.

Very nice thanks for the intel.

744driver 06-25-2010 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by charles9 (Post 831876)
It isn't easy...it's kind of obscure. Look at the weather symbols for freezing drizzle (and other items), look at the lighting for rwy end (CL and edge), and look at what constitutes vrb winds, gusting winds in a TAF/METAR. That's what I remember. It was broad.

Interview: phone straight forward. One question: Why Atlas?

Interview MIA: Employment History: Background, favorite job
Technical: TAF, approach brief
Panel: Why Atlas? Bad Captain, Suspect Alcohol, How did you get to flying...etc.

Overall, good interview. Very thorough, very professional. I did not feel intimidated at all. After a couple of days, I realized I had no idea how I did. I think that is/may be good. Why? They want a fit...super long haul and many days gone. Why did I get the offer?...I'm full of BS...LOL.

Honestly, I really wanted it. I think it is a great outfit. Ask me by Christmas.


I don't think I would have gotten the job if I had interviewed now...but that shouldn't be the reason for anyone to be discouraged. You need to rise to the occassion and knock their socks off. That is what performing under pressure is all about...like making a tough approach, in bad weather, fighting heavy x-winds.

Good luck to you all. It is a good company, and work life is getting better. We have good fleet, good future, good business plan, and great group of guys to work with.

HercDriver130 06-27-2010 04:26 PM

I agree... I wasnt hired... but I was very impressed.... if I ever thought they would give me a second chance to interview I would call DB in a heart beat.

ak2az 07-02-2010 10:35 AM

What is the senority required to hold ANC or LAX? ANC would be a first choice and LAX second. Any reality of a new hire getting into one of those two places? If not how long would it take?

Thanks

Whaledriver 07-02-2010 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by ak2az (Post 836004)
What is the senority required to hold ANC or LAX? ANC would be a first choice and LAX second. Any reality of a new hire getting into one of those two places? If not how long would it take?

Thanks

LAX is VERY senior. There were two openings in ANC for newhires. They were filled by the first class. ANC is very possible, maybe not first thing, but doable in the first few years.

Waldo11 07-02-2010 04:20 PM

Does the base really matter? I thought someone said previously it was advantagous not to live in ur base or gateway.

hiplainsdrifter 07-03-2010 07:45 AM

Ok, I know, dumb question but I'll ask it anyway. All I have is turbo-prop time. 2600 TPIC, and check airman, but all Tprop. Is there a possibility they could sniff at me at all?

I know a couple years ago a friend got on Southern Air with my similar time, but then that was a different job market.

Thanks

744driver 07-04-2010 07:15 AM

I haven't talked to many of the new-hires that are in the training pipeline, but it seems that they are picking guys with many thousands of hours of jet experience.

The job market right now lends itself to a buyer's market to the point that even the RJ guys are hard-pressed to getting an interview call. And just two years ago, we hired many high-time (mostly Captains) pilots from the Regional carriers.

I hate to discourage you from applying, because nobody really knows the mix of candidates that are getting the calls...but my experience at Atlas tells me that the current hiring cycle is not conducive for anyone without many hours of jet, and mostly heavy jet experience (B757 and above).

And your friend at Southern Air likely had Herc time vs the smaller turbo-prop that the Regional airlines fly...

Good luck...FWIW.

hiplainsdrifter 07-04-2010 08:19 AM

Thanks for the info. It's what I figured. I posted so that somebody knowledgeable, which sounds like you are, could shed some light on their HR pilot hiring direction. (sigh) guess I know what I have to do. :rolleyes: Oh well, having fun while Iím at it.

744driver 07-04-2010 01:17 PM

In no was I trying to burst your bubble, but just trying to disseminate the right information for others also.

We all started somewhere...it sounds like you have the advantage of being young and therefore, have more years to make it to a job where you can hang out (if you need to or choose to) for a few years while the job market is in your favor.

Good luck.

1st Supersonic 07-04-2010 07:31 PM

Thanks for all the info everyone! Good luck to all us Freight Dogs!


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