My longest/most brutal Southern dh was SMF-LAX-IST-FRU all in one shot. It was rough. IST-FRU was in some sort of pseudo Econ/Business, but it was too little, too late.

Rest assured, DH and I were anything but "good buddies." I butted heads with him on a few occasions, losing once or twice along the way.

Also, "you're".

Twice.

Grammer Police! BFD! I'll make sure to correct it next time. Blah, blah!

Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You've got "Spirit" now, and are no longer at SAI. Things are hopefully a bit more optimistic for SAI, and the only thing that you can do is regale us with your (possesive) stories of woe. Boo hoo, poor you, you've suffered so much!

Just like when you were at Southern, all the attention has to be focused on YOU! Enough of your narcissism.

You weren't at SAI long enough to really get the full effect!

You found your fit at Spirit, bugger off.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Thanks I'm crying right now :D

Similar story. Fresh out of IOE, commercial ORD-NRT (12 hours?) then sit in NRT for 5:45 (15 minutes less than the contractually obligated need for a hotel room) then another coach class middle row seat to SYD. Ouch.

Most pointless DH? ORD-PVG-DEL, operate DEL-ADD, DH ADD-FRA-ORD.

Good times.

Somebody needs a hug.

That's more or less the wording I used in the official Fatigue Report that I submitted to the company. Although I think my language was a bit more colorful, as I didn't have to work around auto-censoring algorithms.

Never heard anything more about the incident!

I've deadheaded from CVG-INC and worked the flight INC-HKG. I can't recall the rest rules but I believe the absolute duty day is 24 hours with a four man crew and anything beyond 20 hours needs Chief Pilot approval. Not positive though. Again this is just duty day.

:confused: Do you really mean Yinchuan or is it Inchon? Either way, they DH four pilots to Asia to operate a 3-4 hour flight just so they can use 4-man crew rest rules and immediately operate upon arrival?

Apparently the union leadership met with Flynn today. Any early Intel on what was discussed?

Yes I meant ICN. Not all of us were deadheading. Some of the crew were already there.

Do you operate short legs with four pilots like that all the time? Interesting scenario. Some are rested, some are deadheading into the flight, all are somehow under four pilot rules. All so that the limiting pilot is legal to operate a 4 hour flight that could have been done by just two of the pilots already there and rested.