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baldwin 05-05-2016 04:58 AM

Amazon reaches agreement with Atlas
 
BRIEF-Atlas Air Worldwide announces agreement with Amazon | Reuters

EXPAT1 05-05-2016 05:06 AM

Looks like Amazon just rained on ATSGs parade. Welcome to the ACMI world where you are one contract away from unemployment. A wise decision by Amazon to spread around the risk using multiple carriers patterned after the DHL model. In the end I can see the FAA mandating Amazon have their own Operating certificate as was forced upon UPS.

CargoPirate 05-05-2016 05:15 AM

Amazon can avoid having to acquire their own certificate by buying portions of each company. I think that is what the stock warrants are for in Atlas and ATSG.

Amazon has the warrants to buy significant portions of each company.

AQPABC 05-05-2016 05:21 AM

Did Amazon buy a portion of ATSG?

WTFover 05-05-2016 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by AQPABC (Post 2122912)
Did Amazon buy a portion of ATSG?

The agreement with ATSG allows Amazon to acquire up to 19.9% of ATSG stock over five years.

With AAWW, Amazon has been granted the option to acquire 20% over five years AND another 10% within the following two years.

AQPABC 05-05-2016 05:30 AM

Wow.... Thanks for the answer.

That's a lot of influence over both companies.

DHL owns 49% of Polar.. Wonder how that's going to play out.

MD-11Loader 05-05-2016 05:39 AM

Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings

Big day for Atlas. Finding additional revenue streams is always a good thing.

FR8Dog7 05-05-2016 05:43 AM

Wait for it, wait for it, Cliff will give us the straight inside poop! :D

baldwin 05-05-2016 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by EXPAT1 (Post 2122906)
Looks like Amazon just rained on ATSGs parade. Welcome to the ACMI world where you are one contract away from unemployment. A wise decision by Amazon to spread around the risk using multiple carriers patterned after the DHL model. In the end I can see the FAA mandating Amazon have their own Operating certificate as was forced upon UPS.



I don't see it as 'raining on ATSG's parade' at all- ATSG is sitting on the vacant DHL sort facility which Atlas doesn't have. Amazon bought a seat on ATSG's board for cryin out loud. With the amount of volume that Amazon carries, there will be plenty to go around between ABX/ATI/Atlas. If anything, this move will enable Amazon to control its own logistics sooner, which will be a positive thing for both ATSG and Atlas over the long run.

useless 05-05-2016 05:57 AM

Amazon wants 60 76's correct? When will Kalitta announce they are getting the last twenty?


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