The "SIC type rating" is not acceptable to ICAO, so any international flying will require a full-on type rating.

K4 is a better deal than Atlas in the present moment, I hope you all get a contract that is a quantum leap.

I personally know of four different friends that came from the regionals and did not make it. Of course, I know of many more with the same background that were successful. Just make sure you understand, this is not a Delta, American or United training mentality. This is a sink or swim program. Extra assistance is limited and washouts are common.

Actually the SIC type was created for ICAO. It's no longer acceptable to the FAA under 121.436 since 2014.

The hardest thing for the RJ guy is staying ahead of the 747. Pushing around half a million tons of iron or more calls for forward thinking. Get behind the curve and you will never catch up.

I've seen the majority of checkride busts are from military guys followed by corporate guys.

Had a class of 24. Various backgrounds. 5 in the class had no "glass" experience whatsoever and only light turbo prop experience to boot. We had 4 who were previously typed 747 pilots and the rest were corporate (Kalitta charters lears or similar) or CRJ pilots. I don't think we had any fail the oral exam and 4 busted the type (stupid mistakes on a bad day type thing). All passed second try and no washouts. A class of 30 two month previous to us had 4 washouts however so it does happen.

Overall, I would say the training is not the best I've seen but not as bad as some of the horror stories I've heard either. Generally speaking the training department people would go out of their way to help us if asked (more than one instructor stayed late to help us). Some sim instructors are better than others.....that is true everywhere.

Great job. Great airplane. Easy trips for the most part. We DO need a new contract. It IS getting ugly with rhetoric etc trying to get said contract. There is good and bad with any job and Atlas is no exception. They need more experienced people in dispatch, travel, scheduling... it is NOT FedEx or UPS, but it's not a bad place to work. A new contract ratified by the pilots and it will be a much better place to work.

RJ drivers typically do fine. (if I can do it...) Some students insist on getting wrapped around the wrong axle, i guess. If you bust, you will get a re-check. If you need it, you will get extra sims. The instructors want you to do well, but the culture on the 747 is about evaluation and checking, where the 767 favors instruction. Atlas occasionally will suspend training and let you resign in lieu of being terminated, but most washouts leave on their own. The student knows when they're not getting it. Some can't climb the mountain in time, some realize the culture isn't a good fit and go back to where they were before, some just don't meet the standard.

I'm a ERJ145 FO and just looking to see if when my hours get to applying time. If Atlas is going to even consider my application since I do not have any time in a heavy aircraft.