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BravoPapa 03-25-2017 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2329295)
What he's saying is that once you have the hours for a restricted ATP (sounds like you have them now), the CA thing doesn't matter because once you have the hours needed to upgrade (1,000 121 as an FO), you will be well past the point of moving on to a full-on ATP, no longer a restricted.

In other words, having a restricted ATP in your case means nothing when it comes to upgrading because it will require 1,000 additional hours at a regional.

Ok. Got that. But then you still need the minimums though to be hired as a FO/SIC, i.e., 200 hours x-country; 100 hours night flight; etc. Or does that not matter, and will get those minimums as a FO/SIC? That's the part I'm still not plain on.

BravoPapa 03-25-2017 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by BrianATL (Post 2329302)
Ok. Got that. But then you still need the minimums though to be hired as a FO/SIC, i.e., 200 hours x-country; 100 hours night flight; etc. Or does that not matter, and will get those minimums as a FO/SIC? That's the part I'm still not plain on.

Ok, from what I'm seeing, even for a restricted ATP, you still need those minimums.

bnkangle 03-26-2017 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by BrianATL (Post 2329302)
Ok. Got that. But then you still need the minimums though to be hired as a FO/SIC, i.e., 200 hours x-country; 100 hours night flight; etc. Or does that not matter, and will get those minimums as a FO/SIC? That's the part I'm still not plain on.

You need the mins to get hired. You can't build the time as an SIC. Lol.

BravoPapa 03-26-2017 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by bnkangle (Post 2329518)
You need the mins to get hired. You can't build the time as an SIC. Lol.

Hey, I didn't think so, but just making sure since the way it was put kinda confused me. It woulda been nice. lol.

Flyguy4723 03-28-2017 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by zondaracer (Post 2328860)
This is correct. You'll get the rest of the 300 hours of cross country while flying at a regional and you'll be able to get the unrestricted ATP before you are captain.

Doesn't he need 500 hours of XC time since he has not done his training at a part 141 program? He would need to get an unrestricted ATP which would require the 1500 TT and 500 hours XC...

IDIOTPILOT 03-28-2017 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Flyguy4723 (Post 2330845)
Doesn't he need 500 hours of XC time since he has not done his training at a part 141 program? He would need to get an unrestricted ATP which would require the 1500 TT and 500 hours XC...

No. Any applicant, regardless of prior training, needs 200 cross country for a restricted ATP.

TheWeatherman 03-28-2017 11:14 AM

Yeah, that's huge because if you are just CFIing to build hours, getting 500 x-country is harder than you think.

BravoPapa 03-28-2017 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 2331158)
Yeah, that's huge because if you are just CFIing to build hours, getting 500 x-country is harder than you think.

Exactly. That's why I started the thread to make sure.


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