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Old 01-01-2011 | 09:47 AM
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At the recent Jackson Hole overrun, AAL took the black boxes and reviewed them before sending them to the NTSB. The NTSB promptly issued this press release:

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What can the FAA or NTSB actually do to AAL ?
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Old 01-01-2011 | 11:01 AM
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The FAA can't do anything because it's under 49 CFR 831. The NTSB has removed AA from "party status" which means they won't be part of the investigation and will not have any input to the final report. It also means there won't be anyone around from AA to explain, "This is how we do this." They'll have the FAA from AA's CMO saying, "This is what their manuals say they should do" and APA explaining it.

49 CFR 830 talks about preservation of wreckage which covers the CVR and FDR. They could go for a civil penalty ($$$$) for violating it.

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Old 01-01-2011 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
The FAA can't do anything because it's under 49 CFR 831. ......
49 CFR 830 talks about preservation of wreckage which covers the CVR and FDR. They could go for a civil penalty ($$$$) for violating it.

Ok, who then, if not FAA, would be responsible for enforcing Title 49, Code 830? Who will make them pay up?
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Old 01-01-2011 | 09:23 PM
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I would think it would be the NTSB. I don't know if their Administrative Law Judges could fine AA or if they would hand it off to the US Attorneys' office.
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