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Responses that include at least some modicum of respect, whether or not I happen to agree with their opinion. I have stated some of the reasons I find this practice disturbing. It seems about all the other camp is saying is that I'm wrong. One way to really find out is as I have previously stated. It also might make an interesting project for a student, whichever way it turns out. I'd really like to be proven wrong. BTW, I thank all of the constructive participants, especially those that have contributed legal citations. The whole point of this is to possibly effect some changes resulting in an improved learning environment, while still maintaining or even improving oversight.
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You have been. Repeatedly.
You assert that the FAA isn't allowed in the sim. The FAA is allowed to monitor and observe during checkrides and during training.
That you keep saying otherwise is somewhat like saying the sky is green. You can keep on saying it, but that doesn't make it so.
You assert that the FAA isn't allowed in the sim. The FAA is allowed to monitor and observe during checkrides and during training.
That you keep saying otherwise is somewhat like saying the sky is green. You can keep on saying it, but that doesn't make it so.
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In view of all this I'm still saying it's wrong. We, as a country, have tons of rules and regulations that we are supposed to abide by. Many of them were not thought through, and were passed anyway. Look at the Affordable Care Act. "We need to pass it before we can read it..." "No more expensive than your cell phone bill..." All the CFR's come from or through these same people. Yes, many FAR's are written in blood and for good reason; though others are ineffective and antiquated while still others just seemed like good ideas. I would really like to see some aviation students officially study this and make me eat my words. And BTW, How do we know the majority of these events take place with no distractions? Let's get some scientific proof. Lacking this proof, both viewpoints would have to be considered just that, viewpoints.
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I don't recall fruitlessly demanding anything. I just happen to think the current system, regarding this particular issue, deserves another look. Like I previously stated, this would make a great project for an aviation student, to conduct a scientific study. It is my hope that this study is accomplished; though I think the potential results of such a study are what might be concerning you most... Personally, I would be satisfied to be proven wrong.
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I don't recall fruitlessly demanding anything. I just happen to think the current system, regarding this particular issue, deserves another look. Like I previously stated, this would make a great project for an aviation student, to conduct a scientific study. It is my hope that this study is accomplished; though I think the potential results of such a study are what might be concerning you most... Personally, I would be satisfied to be proven wrong.
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I don't recall fruitlessly demanding anything. I just happen to think the current system, regarding this particular issue, deserves another look. Like I previously stated, this would make a great project for an aviation student, to conduct a scientific study. It is my hope that this study is accomplished; though I think the potential results of such a study are what might be concerning you most... Personally, I would be satisfied to be proven wrong.
You are the one that needs to be proving that the current situation doesn't work.
In an earlier post - you said that there were two "viewpoints".
both viewpoints would have to be considered just that, viewpoints.
We can think that many laws are unfair and unjust and there is even a process to try and change them. If you are truly interested in this issue, then maybe YOU should take up the mantle of some such study to try and gather some scientific proof.
It seems that this issue has struck some personal chord with you and your chosen drum to beat is the ASI's regulatory *requirement* to observe. If an ASI doesn't behave in a professional manner in the performance of their duties - then you should address it with that ASI on the spot, the training program manager in the case which you have cited in this thread, or the ASI's manager.
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This subject does not strike a personal chord other than attempting to shed some light on a potential training detractor. I would possibly be willing to participate in such a project. Further some of the bigger schools could easily and cheaply perform such a study as they already have the required resources in place. To be clear, I am not overly concerned with inspectors present during exams, Etc. This is about them detracting from the training experience. Who knows what could come from a serious and thorough study. It could just as easily result in increased oversight, possibly through new or novel methods.
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This subject does not strike a personal chord other than attempting to shed some light on a potential training detractor. I would possibly be willing to participate in such a project. Further some of the bigger schools could easily and cheaply perform such a study as they already have the required resources in place. To be clear, I am not overly concerned with inspectors present during exams, Etc. This is about them detracting from the training experience.