Climategate
#462
The DoD is taking a practical approach, considering how it will affect them, and how they may need to react to unfolding circumstances (I was involved in the arctic piece of that at one point).
DoD is agnostic about causes, and mostly agnostic about cures, since that's not their wheelhouse. They are getting on the green bandwagon as much as practical just in case, but there's no such thing as a battery-powered supersonic warplane, nor will there ever be.
DoD is agnostic about causes, and mostly agnostic about cures, since that's not their wheelhouse. They are getting on the green bandwagon as much as practical just in case, but there's no such thing as a battery-powered supersonic warplane, nor will there ever be.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...nt-is-operable
#463
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This makes perfect sense. Too many of us don't care about facts and reality...we want to pretend that Our Universe, is different than it actually is.
In 1966, coal companies produced a non-pubic report that continued use of their product would cause all of the ice on Greenland and Antarctica to melt, which would destroy coastal cities worldwide, including NYC and MIA. In response, the coal companies organized to put out public reports denying that this would happen.
America: Profits Before People.
https://www.sciencealert.com/coal-in...velations-show
In 1966, coal companies produced a non-pubic report that continued use of their product would cause all of the ice on Greenland and Antarctica to melt, which would destroy coastal cities worldwide, including NYC and MIA. In response, the coal companies organized to put out public reports denying that this would happen.
America: Profits Before People.
https://www.sciencealert.com/coal-in...velations-show
#464
I recently flew over Southern Greenland, and there was a LOT of black rock, which is a very big problem, as all of that black rock absorbs the sun's energy, and then melts the ice around it, leading to more black rock. I am 99% sure that if I did the same flight 80 years ago, all I would have seen is ice and snow.
If you do your best to read and understand the science behind Global Warming, you would probably realize that the idea that all of the ice on Greenland and Antarctica ALREADY being gone, is not realistic. We are humans, with VERY short lifespans relative to timeframes of climate changes on Our Earth. We have only been burning coal since about 1700, and we have only been using large amounts of oil since some time after the 1920s. These are very short timeframes relative to Our Earth's timeline.
Also, it is easier to understand Global Warming if you realize that the Coal/Oil/Gas industry has been promoting Fake News about their negative affects on Global Warming for decades.
We, as taxpayers, will be responsible for the costs of resettling millions of Americans away from their homes on the coasts, as our sea levels continue to rise. We are stupidly allowing more development in areas sensitive to sea level rise, because Our Government, and Our Leaders, are corrupt and they are not looking out for the long-term health of Our America. The economic downturn from the loss of habitable land in South Florida, will be much, much worse than the economic downturn of 2008. Too bad for us!
#466
We, as taxpayers, will be responsible for the costs of resettling millions of Americans away from their homes on the coasts, as our sea levels continue to rise. We are stupidly allowing more development in areas sensitive to sea level rise, because Our Government, and Our Leaders, are corrupt and they are not looking out for the long-term health of Our America. The economic downturn from the loss of habitable land in South Florida, will be much, much worse than the economic downturn of 2008. Too bad for us!
#467
climate control is about control and redistribution of wealth and they admit it!
Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC's fourth summary report released in 2007, speaking in 2010 advised:
"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world's wealth."
U.N. climate chief Christiana Figueres said that:
the true aim of the U.N.'s 2014 Paris climate conference was "to change the (capitalist) economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution."
Christine Stewart, Canada's former Minister of the Environment said:
"No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits. ... Climate change (provides) the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world."
Tim Wirth, former U.S. Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs and the person most responsible for setting up the Kyoto Protocol said:
"We've got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."
Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC's fourth summary report released in 2007, speaking in 2010 advised:
"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world's wealth."
U.N. climate chief Christiana Figueres said that:
the true aim of the U.N.'s 2014 Paris climate conference was "to change the (capitalist) economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution."
Christine Stewart, Canada's former Minister of the Environment said:
"No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits. ... Climate change (provides) the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world."
Tim Wirth, former U.S. Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs and the person most responsible for setting up the Kyoto Protocol said:
"We've got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."
#469
I just recently read about this. Holland has a geological ground structure that keeps the water out, as long as the "walls" (dikes) are high enough. S Florida's ground is porous (limestone?), so putting up dikes won't help, as the sea level will rise from below. The first big problem is the rising sea levels getting in to the ground water aquifers, which S FL uses for it's drinking water, and then into a number of sites with buried toxic waste, which will start to mix with the groundwater and rising sea water.
#470
You can research the software models, if you want to. Our Climate is VERY complex, and no one knows the exact day that the majority of MIA residents will be forced to move... It is not 2+2, and cannot be summed up in a 30 second political ad.