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Str8 Cash Homie 08-07-2022 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3474060)
I'm not following you.. I'm not making a statement about the E175 vs 190. But since you brought it up.. sure it's a common type, but note that the FAA still requires an E170 pilot to consolidate on a 190. It's heavier and mainly longer, with 3 FAs and overwing exits, and in Breeze's case, some airplanes have autobrakes and some don't. This all introduces threats that are manageable to someone already experienced on the 170 because they have the bandwidth for the differences.

A CFI has to learn all this plus all the things pertaining to 121 that are routine and second nature to an experienced pilot. And the unique threat with a place like breeze is that it's a young company where EVERYONE is new to their roles- so you as the pilot better have your *stuff* together and you better have a backbone when it comes to *certain challenges* pertaining to the operation.

When I was there one had to manage brand new kid FAs out of the house for the first time, every airport being a new airport, airplanes with conformity check challenges, endless ramp checks by the FAA and TSA, people new to roles as DX, MX, CS, OPS, GAs, southeast flying without WIFI/WSI.. we had the bandwidth to handle that BECAUSE we were mid to high time E170 captains, instructors, and LCAs..

Again, not the place for new 121s.. I doubt much has changed since last year on this front.

I was specifically referring to this:

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3473015)
it's a big jump to make going from a light twin to an E190 or bigger. RJ companies are more favorable places to transition.



Btw both SkyWest and Republic hires thousands of CFI’s a year and have 170/175’s with and without autobrakes.

As I said before, I agree with you for the most part. Prior 121 experience is always king. If Breeze wants to hire zero 121 time pilots they better start investing a significant amount of “straight cash” into that training department, homie.

BobbyLeeSwagger 08-07-2022 02:36 PM

Straight cash indeed. Too bad CFI hiring was always baked into the business model. DN et al told us that from day 1. He had that cirrus time building thing he was gonna start up for essentially ab initio. All this means breeze will always underpay, or has plans to always underpay.

"Give breeze a chance" - meaning give breeze a chance to increase shareholder pockets..why ALPA is necessary. I was quietly convinced early on that Breeze never had intentions of opening the pocket book and/or rewarding those who took the risks to come pre launch.

hotmicoffNOW 08-07-2022 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3474081)
Straight cash indeed. Too bad CFI hiring was always baked into the business model. DN et al told us that from day 1. He had that cirrus time building thing he was gonna start up for essentially ab initio. All this means breeze will always underpay, or has plans to always underpay.

"Give breeze a chance" - meaning give breeze a chance to increase shareholder pockets..why ALPA is necessary. I was quietly convinced early on that Breeze never had intentions of opening the pocket book and/or rewarding those who took the risks to come pre launch.


BLS for President

planejoe 08-08-2022 08:14 AM

Any chance for someone who has an RATP with E170/190 type but not yet at 1500 hrs? I see the drop downs on the application online and feel like if I select under 1500 hours it will automatically reject me.

Just wondering since they are hiring people straight out of multi pistons… thanks for any info.

SJS Maverick 08-08-2022 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by planejoe (Post 3474471)
Any chance for someone who has an RATP with E170/190 type but not yet at 1500 hrs? I see the drop downs on the application online and feel like if I select under 1500 hours it will automatically reject me.

Just wondering since they are hiring people straight out of multi pistons… thanks for any info.

just apply and see what happens. You can always reapply once you hit 1500hrs.

Justsendit16 08-08-2022 12:06 PM

Training
 
Is it true breeze has adjusted its training to be more tailored to low time pilots? Is there anything specific that has caused cfi’s to wash out of training?

bonvoyage 08-08-2022 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Justsendit16 (Post 3474637)
Is it true breeze has adjusted its training to be more tailored to low time pilots? Is there anything specific that has caused cfi’s to wash out of training?

Man you people can’t even be bothered to read just a few posts up????

No the training hasn’t been tailored. If you aren’t typed and have no 121 experience, good luck. The wash outs come from a) having no 121 experience, and b) not knowing the aircraft already and being placed into an environment where you’re not spoon fed

BobbyLeeSwagger 08-08-2022 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Justsendit16 (Post 3474637)
Is it true breeze has adjusted its training to be more tailored to low time pilots? Is there anything specific that has caused cfi’s to wash out of training?

what's the pull for you? Are you in a breeze base or something? Why not go to a regional where you are a known quantity that they are prepared to bring along? fly the line for 6 months then apply.

Justsendit16 08-08-2022 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by bonvoyage (Post 3474784)
Man you people can’t even be bothered to read just a few posts up????

No the training hasn’t been tailored. If you aren’t typed and have no 121 experience, good luck. The wash outs come from a) having no 121 experience, and b) not knowing the aircraft already and being placed into an environment where you’re not spoon fed

I read the posts above. I heard recently they had changed their tactics. Can u be bothered to have a little patience? Don’t see why it’s such an inconvince to your day

Justsendit16 08-08-2022 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3474797)
what's the pull for you? Are you in a breeze base or something? Why not go to a regional where you are a known quantity that they are prepared to bring along? fly the line for 6 months then apply.

I was supposed to go to envoy but they have suspended class dates indefinitely for DEC’s and breeze said I could get in within a month


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