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bonvoyage 08-17-2022 06:01 AM

I would say JetBlue was more of a struggle of bad timing than anything, and they still managed to make it. The Breeze A220’s are nice, in a passengers eyes. The fares are cheap. Most of the routes are underserved, but they do plan routes that focus on tech or business travelers I.e. Providence, SDF-SFO, PVU-SFO. Time always tells, but in my opinion they seem to be doing well.

And we had no cancelations in July because we cut half of the flights. What you see all of the legacies doing right now for this fall, right sizing their ship, we have already done. Management at Breeze is playing “stupid games, stupid prizes”. If they continue to ignore the pilot market, they’re going to have trouble hiring and retaining.

Margaritaville 08-17-2022 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by fasteddie800 (Post 3478877)
What exactly does DN see as his advantage with Breeze?

Cheap labor that eye waters at Shiny Jets.

mkitrn 08-17-2022 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3478900)
Cheap labor that eye waters at Shiny Jets.

DN is praying every night for age 67.

I was inverted 08-17-2022 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by fasteddie800 (Post 3478877)
Honest question, what "strategy" are you referring to (beyond in-flight entertainment choices)?

As far as I've been able to tell, DN's success with Morris Air, WestJet, Azul, and JetBlue were a mix of being on the forefront of pursuing the LCC/ULCC model, and exporting that model from the US to other countries (Brazil, Canada). He had good timing with JetBlue, and pursuing routes that other carriers (AA) had abandoned.

I don't think any of those strategies are valid going forward. The LCC/ULCC model is well-worn at this point, and there are many competitors in that space.

What exactly does DN see as his advantage with Breeze?

Niceness!!

hoover 08-17-2022 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by EnergyManager (Post 3478833)
The days of contracts taking years to hash out are gone, especially at the regionals or similar like Breeze. When you are at the bottom of the pile fighting for pilots, the market sets your contract, not negotiations. Just look at the pay increases at some regionals lately.

My money is on the government stepping in and reducing the barriers to entry (1500hr rule) before too many failures. They’ll probably also stretch retirement age as well while they are re-writing regulation.

I dont knowing this is true regarding regionals. I never worked for one but at majors it is taking years to hash one out without an end in sight.

01110011 08-17-2022 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3479023)
I dont knowing this is true regarding regionals. I never worked for one but at majors it is taking years to hash one out without an end in sight.

That’s because the majors haven’t had to cancel flights because they don’t have enough applicants and because they’re seeing 5% attrition monthly. The regionals are in a world of pain, this is absolutely true. Even the greediest regionals are coming back to the table early so they can get enough fresh meat in the door.

fly4fun14 08-17-2022 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by fasteddie800 (Post 3478877)
Honest question, what "strategy" are you referring to (beyond in-flight entertainment choices)?

Serving underserved and secondary markets, which is the same model Azul used. Granted US is different than Brazil so by no means am I'm implicating success. More so arguing that 100% failure is not guaranteed.

thecanman 08-17-2022 06:50 PM

Does anyone have info on their Boost program? Anything about the 220's that have been ordered?

bonvoyage 08-17-2022 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by thecanman (Post 3479369)
Does anyone have info on their Boost program? Anything about the 220's that have been ordered?

Rumor mill says they’re gonna paint them blue…

TransWorld 08-17-2022 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3479038)
That’s because the majors haven’t had to cancel flights because they don’t have enough applicants and because they’re seeing 5% attrition monthly. The regionals are in a world of pain, this is absolutely true. Even the greediest regionals are coming back to the table early so they can get enough fresh meat in the door.

The majors have reduced flights by 8 to 14 % due to lack of pilots. They are able to vacuum up regional pilots, but they cannot get them trained and out on the line fast enough. Things will improve in the next year or two as far as majors cancellations. But the regionals will be collapsing, merging, reducing service with no immediate sign of recovery.


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