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shortspatula 11-02-2022 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by holygrail (Post 3525440)
Hi, I’ve been absent from this game for many years and considering getting back into the airline game. I’ve got 23 years as a professional pilot but have flown corporate for the last 10. Needless to say I’m no longer a young hotshot with a wife and girlfriend on separate coasts. My kids are raised, my (only) wife is still with me and my cars are paid for. It’s obvious that this world has changed drastically since I left as there were no startups, DEC’S or committing stipends in my heyday. The DEC thing has peaked my interest both at Breeze and Avelo but I’m curious if I’d be the only gray haired captain on the property? Are most of you guys early/mid career? Just out of the regionals? Sounds like the daily grind is manageable at both but I’m curious what you all think?

I commuted to SLC WAY back when but I’m curious how a KPVU commute would work? There are very few flights there! With a PVU base, why is the training CTR in SLC?

is there actually a commuter stipend?

Is the 15~18 days off realistic?

How does holiday flying work?

Am I crazy to think that the DEC option is the best case for a guy to finish his career?

any positive advice is welcome.


As a DEC you’ll be on reserve with 12 off indefinitely with very little say on schedules. Unless you live in base you won’t have much of a life. You can commute for day trips but you’ll be home like 2 days a week. Not trying to be a downer, it’s just how it is. They’re working on ways to make it better for commuters.

Fishon320 11-03-2022 05:28 AM

charter for DEC I was told is junior. That would be best the option for you. Unless things have changed.

Swapapotamoose 11-03-2022 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by holygrail (Post 3525440)
Hi, I’ve been absent from this game for many years and considering getting back into the airline game. I’ve got 23 years as a professional pilot but have flown corporate for the last 10. Needless to say I’m no longer a young hotshot with a wife and girlfriend on separate coasts. My kids are raised, my (only) wife is still with me and my cars are paid for. It’s obvious that this world has changed drastically since I left as there were no startups, DEC’S or committing stipends in my heyday. The DEC thing has peaked my interest both at Breeze and Avelo but I’m curious if I’d be the only gray haired captain on the property? Are most of you guys early/mid career? Just out of the regionals? Sounds like the daily grind is manageable at both but I’m curious what you all think?

I commuted to SLC WAY back when but I’m curious how a KPVU commute would work? There are very few flights there! With a PVU base, why is the training CTR in SLC?

is there actually a commuter stipend?

Is the 15~18 days off realistic?

How does holiday flying work?

Am I crazy to think that the DEC option is the best case for a guy to finish his career?

any positive advice is welcome.

Breeze is no longer hiring DEC’s. That could change with attrition or with more A/C being acquired.

Most guys are probably mid career, they either lived through the lost decade, they’ve passed up a job at a major or they’re trying to see this thing through and haven’t applied anywhere.

PVU commute would be horrible, as you have stated. The training center is in SLC because that’s where the company is headquartered.

Commuter stipend went away. You can choose to have funds held (tax free) to buy airline tickets and hotels.

15-18 days off a month is realistic on the Ejet and if you live in base.

Holiday flying is at 200%.

I’m getting the feeling you don’t want to sit in the right seat because you’re a little older. I would maybe then look at another corporate job. Avelo was doing DEC’s as well (I’m not sure they still are) but they seem to be struggling over there. The start up game is tough and breeze has had hard times but it’s certainly improving. The best option would be to go to a major and hopefully not commute to finish your career. But that means you’ll be flying right seat for a year maybe 2. Hope this helps. Good luck.

CFIsoonToBeFO 11-03-2022 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose (Post 3525650)
Breeze is no longer hiring DEC’s. That could change with attrition or with more A/C being acquired.

Most guys are probably mid career, they either lived through the lost decade, they’ve passed up a job at a major or they’re trying to see this thing through and haven’t applied anywhere.

PVU commute would be horrible, as you have stated. The training center is in SLC because that’s where the company is headquartered.

Commuter stipend went away. You can choose to have funds held (tax free) to buy airline tickets and hotels.

15-18 days off a month is realistic on the Ejet and if you live in base.

Holiday flying is at 200%.

I’m getting the feeling you don’t want to sit in the right seat because you’re a little older. I would maybe then look at another corporate job. Avelo was doing DEC’s as well (I’m not sure they still are) but they seem to be struggling over there. The start up game is tough and breeze has had hard times but it’s certainly improving. The best option would be to go to a major and hopefully not commute to finish your career. But that means you’ll be flying right seat for a year maybe 2. Hope this helps. Good luck.

I understand Tampa is “senior” but how long would it take to get there with the new A220’s expected to be brought on the property?

Swapapotamoose 11-03-2022 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO (Post 3525710)
I understand Tampa is “senior” but how long would it take to get there with the new A220’s expected to be brought on the property?

I wouldn’t come to breeze for the TPA base. It’s senior on the A220 and there’s currently 11 legacy ejet pilots who are bidding for TPA A220 slots. They’re guaranteed into the base which will only make it more senior. If you want a TPA jr base, check out F9.

CFIsoonToBeFO 11-03-2022 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose (Post 3525715)
I wouldn’t come to breeze for the TPA base. It’s senior on the A220 and there’s currently 11 legacy ejet pilots who are bidding for TPA A220 slots. They’re guaranteed into the base which will only make it more senior. If you want a TPA jr base, check out F9.

Appreciate that info!

Highway 11-03-2022 08:31 AM

Does anyone here know how hard it is for a new hire to get charter operations? I would be a commuter and would hope to get charter as soon as possible.

Also, I read some posts on the difficulty of the flight training without prior 121 experience. This would be my first 121 job, but I do have military rotary training. Is there anyone with a military fight background (specifically Rotary) that can speak to how much more difficult we are talking?

shortspatula 11-03-2022 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Fishon320 (Post 3525645)
charter for DEC I was told is junior. That would be best the option for you. Unless things have changed.

Charter is senior, especially on the Captain side.

Fishon320 11-03-2022 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by shortspatula (Post 3525816)
Charter is senior, especially on the Captain side.

I was told it was going junior and that a dec could hold It, but not as much block for those who want to fly more. I was told they expected it to be senior but it didn’t work out that way. Anyhow, really good job people at Breeze, you will enjoy it either way!

Av8rPHX 11-10-2022 06:58 AM

Why does Breeze keep adding more routes when they can’t fly the schedule they currently have?


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