Need Advice - Fired From 1st Job
#11
I was progressing appropriately and knew what I needed to know. When my manager fired me, she told me I never made a mistake and I was on the right track, but she didn't feel like I was invested or a part of the team. In my opinion it's hard to get to know someone after 7 weeks, let alone fire them without warning.
Ok I'm going to be brutally honest but it's for your own good.
What I'm reading ^^^ is cry cry cry me a river.
Clearly you sucked at something ( attitude, work ethic?) and your manager decided to give somebody else a chance.
I have a friend that I just spoke at the airport who had two jobs for 5 years. Flight instructor from 8am-2pm then 2pm-10pm working as a line guy for the local airport authority. That 12 hrs a day, 72 hrs a week and usually he'd come in on his day off also. His finances are none of my business but he's paid off a significant chunk of his student loans.
If I was HR/Chief Pilot somewhere he'd be hired half-way through that story.
See where I'm getting at here?
I am now where I want to be but this time last year I was eating ramen noodles fighting off psychotic flight attendants with their own broomstick in an effing crashpad.
And I did my CFI 18 years ago so I've got some miles on me.
See where I'm getting at here?
You need dedication and fortitude to make it in this industry.
I've had a lot of jobs I didn't like and so have most others.
#13
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DL specifically asked for all jobs after high school. That was the word amongst the candidates at the major job fairs. AA wanted all jobs after college. Flying, non-flying, it didn't matter. All jobs after X.
Not being asked about them doesn't mean the airline doesn't want them listed. A resume recommendation is 'no gaps' in your work history.
I forget the details on what the infraction was, or what airline, but a new hire said they were in class and a class mate was removed in the middle of the lesson. Something came up that the new hire hadn't been honest about, or perhaps hadn't listed, and they were fired.
Not being asked about them doesn't mean the airline doesn't want them listed. A resume recommendation is 'no gaps' in your work history.
I forget the details on what the infraction was, or what airline, but a new hire said they were in class and a class mate was removed in the middle of the lesson. Something came up that the new hire hadn't been honest about, or perhaps hadn't listed, and they were fired.
#14
DL specifically asked for all jobs after high school. That was the word amongst the candidates at the major job fairs. AA wanted all jobs after college. Flying, non-flying, it didn't matter. All jobs after X.
Not being asked about them doesn't mean the airline doesn't want them listed. A resume recommendation is 'no gaps' in your work history.
I forget the details on what the infraction was, or what airline, but a new hire said they were in class and a class mate was removed in the middle of the lesson. Something came up that the new hire hadn't been honest about, or perhaps hadn't listed, and they were fired.
Not being asked about them doesn't mean the airline doesn't want them listed. A resume recommendation is 'no gaps' in your work history.
I forget the details on what the infraction was, or what airline, but a new hire said they were in class and a class mate was removed in the middle of the lesson. Something came up that the new hire hadn't been honest about, or perhaps hadn't listed, and they were fired.
Don't go over one page unless the nature of your profession is such that it's important to show a lot of different jobs/experiences. That's what a CV is for.
Example:
Post HS: bagged groceries, waited tables, pizza delivery, plumbing.
Went to college late, odd jobs while in school, including internship
Worked as an engineer for X years
Flight training,
CFI
FO at two regionals, CA at one regional, Uber on the side
Rather than clutter the resume or go over one page, this hypothetical person should probably list...
- College internship
- Engineering Job
- CFI
- Regionals
Stick to non-flying stuff which reflects well on you. Don't bother with menial jobs on the resume unless necessary to avoid an obvious large employment/school gap. In this case the resume doesn't say when he graduated HS.
Another example: Typical pilot career: college+odd jobs, CFI, 1st regional (failed training), 2nd regional FO & CA.
This person should really not list the first regional on his resume, no need to highlight the failure (you'll list it on the application of course).
If you have limited work experience, might want to list odd jobs in HS/college...fills out the resume and shows you're not a totally entitled trust-fund brat. Same token, always list ANY military experience at all...it's getting harder to find full-up grown adults in the work-force, and military punches that ticket.
I might be cautious about not listing certain adverse employment situations in some cases. If it was a significant employment period and/or a significant career milestone you probably need to list it to show career progression and experience. You'll have to deal with the adverse aspect eventually anyway. Example, ten years at regional, five as CA and then fired, currently employed as a regional FO. In this case you need to show your years of experience and where you got all that 121 TPIC.
Again use the resume to sell yourself, not shoot yourself in the foot.
Disclose EVERYTHING they ask for on the employment application of course. But if they only ask for ten years, don't go further back than that.
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