zyttocs

Turboprop/Jet transition.....I've been fortunate to have been flying a King Air 300 for the last 2000 hours and have accumulated 4200 TT, 3300 ME, 3900 PIC, and 2400 turbine, but only 50 jet. My King Air job pays quite well and is on par with most small to midsize jet captain positions so a move to a jet SIC position wont feed the family. The problem is I cant get anyone to look at me for a PIC jet job. We (the family) are trying to relocate to the Denver area and the job hunting isn't working out so far. Of course I could probably slide into a King Air job but they won't come close to paying me what I've been getting and I'd like to transition into jets anyway.

Question....how do I get the jet jobs that ALWAYS say 200 jet or type rating required to look at me? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

zyttocs

Turboprop/Jet transition.....I've been fortunate to have been flying a King Air 300 for the last 2000 hours and have accumulated 4200 TT, 3300 ME, 3900 PIC, and 2400 turbine, but only 50 jet. My King Air job pays quite well and is on par with most small to midsize jet captain positions so a move to a jet SIC position wont feed the family. The problem is I cant get anyone to look at me for a PIC jet job. We (the family) are trying to relocate to the Denver area and the job hunting isn't working out so far. Of course I could probably slide into a King Air job but they won't come close to paying me what I've been getting and I'd like to transition into jets anyway.

Question....how do I get the jet jobs that ALWAYS say 200 jet or type rating required to look at me? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

PerfInit

While your BE-300 PIC experience is very good, One of the main “barriers” you are up against is insurance requirements. If you can find a company willing to type you, you might have to start as a “co-capt” / SIC until you mee their insurance requirements for PIC (time in type). Some lucky few have transitioned from PIC T/prop to T/jet but that usually only happens for those that are “very well connected” with a company that is willing to pay extra for insuring you.

JohnBurke

You have no SIC experience, and no turbojet experience, but want to move straight to a captain position managing a crew cockpit in a turbojet aircraft?

Do you think it might be a good idea to get some experience as second in command before you manage one?

zyttocs

I completely understand the insurance issue and would be happy to fly with a co-captain for awhile but the problem I've had is breaking into something like that.....I guess they are far and few between.

zyttocs

I completely understand the lack of SIC and what that might mean; however, I do have about 300 hours SIC that I cant log due to it being a single pilot typed BE30 and C525 a long time ago. I can tell them I have 300 SIC and 50 Jet but it just doesn't show up in my official totals. I would be glad to fly SIC or co-captain without any hesitation. The problem is I will likely take a 30% to 40% cut in salary and the family cant sustain that for more than maybe 6 months.

phlying4fun

Basin Aviation, Midland Texas was looking for a King Air Captain and jet SIC, probably get on with an operator that will train you right seat and eventually get to move up.

zyttocs

Also...about 200 to 300 hours of the 2000+ hours of my King Air 300 PIC time was with an SIC due to company policy and the type of airports and airspace we flew into on occasion so in all I have maybe 600 hours of crew time...again it just doesn't show up in my official times.

zyttocs

Would it be wrong or thought of as dishonest if I included those additional SIC and Jet times in my resume totals but then explained them later? At least it might get me looked at.

100LL

Just be careful and do your research for any potential company. Anyone spending time researching jobs and actually applying/interviewing (except airlines) may come to this similar conclusion and it can go in one of three ways. First you'll often see companies say "type required" no brainier you must be typed as they aren't looking to type you. Next is when they say "type preferred but not required" or "will type the right applicant" 99% of the time they end up hiring a guy with the type rating and will not give you the time of day even if you are typed in something else. Finally if a company is openly willing to give you a type rating, just be advised there is a reason why they do that. Usually no one has been interested in that particular job, or they don't stay long for a number of reasons, pay, QoL, schedule etc. So take those jobs job openings with a grain of salt. Apply, get the type, spend some time and get out. So after all this you may think well damn, how do some people get those better jobs...key word is networking and/or sucking the D....no lie it happens and unfortunately that's how it works even to get on a SIC role for some companies that start them at 90,000. Knew a buddy with a G4 type apply to fly a G4, had about 9,000 hours total with 1400 time in type get rejected for some guy who only had a citation type and I believe 6000 hours.