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cezzna 11-13-2018 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2707052)
On line is not all that bad.

Regionals will not care about this stuff at all, unless they catch you in a blatant lie.

The better majors however, will be super anal and that's why folks are driving that point home.

If you don't have the details, it would be better to say "several minor speeding tickets 1992-1999" than to omit it and have it pop up on a background check. But there's still risk... they might decide that "several" might mean 20+ and elect to just not take a chance. So if you cabn find the details, that would be better.

Bear in mind that (unlike white collar jobs) there's often not a lot of substantial career meat to compare civilian pilots, so it often comes down to the little things.

And the other guys are correct, any hint of attitude will get you shown the door about as fast as getting caught in a lie. Airlines really don't like cowboys or "elite personalities".

Thanks, just trying to understand the process. So if I can fog a mirror, I can walk into any regional and flow to any major sans any assessment, Hogan, driving record. It just doesn’t make much sense to me.

TiredSoul 11-13-2018 04:14 AM

I doesn’t make much sense to anybody.

* one speeding ticket in the last 18 years, in 2016.

Considering the slim chances of getting caught if you have several recent tickets it’s an easy assumption to make that you break that law...constantly.
It’s just one of these markers that they’ve put some importance on.
But hey that’s just my opinion.

NewCareer 11-13-2018 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by cezzna (Post 2707024)
Is this place always so literal and overly serious? Can’t we have fun while discussing some of these issues? I feel like I’m in boot camp. Serious question: Does this culture extend to the flight line? I have no 121 experience. Is it common to have all serious no fun types? I’m sure some exist everywhere but I don’t want a job where I’m always looking over my shoulder.



Cezzna, I don’t think this is the type of place that attracts a huge number of guys who like to have all the time. Makes sense doesn’t it?

Of course, now I am going to have to remember all my speeding tickets too lol. I think I. Have had 4 in all. Two within a few years of getting my license. A 14 year dry spell - I remember bragging to my wife. Then I had one about 5 years ago, which I got reduced. :-)

Maybe searching your email? Will help? I usually go back and forth with my brother :-) and that most recent one, I have emails with my lawyer friend that got it reduced!

Good luck!

cezzna 11-13-2018 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2707448)
I doesn’t make much sense to anybody.

* one speeding ticket in the last 18 years, in 2016.

Considering the slim chances of getting caught if you have several recent tickets it’s an easy assumption to make that you break that law...constantly.
It’s just one of these markers that they’ve put some importance on.
But hey that’s just my opinion.

Yes, doing my best recollection, I’ve had five speeding tickets since 1983, probably sinks my chances, but will put my best spin on it if I ever get a shot. Sadly they were all less than 10mph over the limit. No wrecks ever, always considered myself a safe and conscientious driver. One ticket every seven years makes me a habitual law breaker and I have to own that, no excuses. Thanks all for the input.

Bahamasflyer 11-13-2018 11:37 AM

Do most applications even ask about tickets beyond a certain point??

Most of the applications I've seen only ask going back 5 or 7, perhaps as long as 10 years.

Heck, even SIDA disqualifying felonies only go back 10 years, yet these applications (that I've not seen yet) are asking to list tickets without a time limitation???? C'mon!

10 years really should be the absolute max when it comes to simple tickets, and even that is pushing it

PotatoChip 11-13-2018 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 2707693)
Do most applications even ask about tickets beyond a certain point??

Most of the applications I've seen only ask going back 5 or 7, perhaps as long as 10 years.

Heck, even SIDA disqualifying felonies only go back 10 years, yet these applications (that I've not seen yet) are asking to list tickets without a time limitation???? C'mon!

10 years really should be the absolute max when it comes to simple tickets, and even that is pushing it

Tell that to Delta/United/JetBlue during your interview. They care.

cezzna 11-13-2018 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer (Post 2707693)
Do most applications even ask about tickets beyond a certain point??

Most of the applications I've seen only ask going back 5 or 7, perhaps as long as 10 years.

Heck, even SIDA disqualifying felonies only go back 10 years, yet these applications (that I've not seen yet) are asking to list tickets without a time limitation???? C'mon!

10 years really should be the absolute max when it comes to simple tickets, and even that is pushing it

I’ve filled out a few applications, some don’t ask at all, airline apps asks for all of it. I never would have seen a ticket every 7 years as a problem, but when looked at from a distance, I do show a propensity for getting tickets, and the trend hasn’t really improved. I am consistent.:D

BDJ238 12-30-2018 09:20 PM

Does anyone have more intel on where, or how to find out what is actually on the record the potential employers pull?
I've ordered national driver history records and they all come back blank.
Between 15-25 I had a fast car and a lot of speeding tickets in a half dozen states. Most, if not all, were reduced to non-moving violations and it's been at least 6 years since my last infraction. Essentially since the time it took me to realize how it could impact this career.
I don't necessarily want to take a "wag" at the actual number or give an inaccurate estimate. However, if one knew an approximate to what showed up it would be much easier to explain.


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