Expunged DUI
 

Has anyone with a DUI expunged or not been hired or turned down because of it?
Please only comment if you know someone in a similar situation.
I know their website it mentions they require unrestricted ability to travel to Canada, which doesn't allow entry for DUI unless 5 years have passed.

Does SKW hire you and just assign you to non-Canada routes or simply not hire?

Expunged DUI
 

Has anyone with a DUI expunged or not been hired or turned down because of it?
Please only comment if you know someone in a similar situation.
Canada doesn't allow entry for DUI unless 5 years have passed.

Does the airline hire you and just assign you to non-Canada routes or simply not hire?

Expunged DUI
 

Has anyone with a DUI expunged or not been hired or turned down because of it?
Please only comment if you know someone in a similar situation.
Canada doesn't allow entry for DUI unless 5 years have passed.

Does the airline hire you and just assign you to non-Canada routes or simply not hire?

Expunged DUI
 

Has anyone with a DUI expunged or not been hired or turned down because of it?
Please only comment if you know someone in a similar situation.
Canada doesn't allow entry for DUI unless 5 years have passed.

Does the airline hire you and just assign you to non-Canada routes or simply not hire?

Expunged DUI
 

Has anyone with a DUI expunged or not been hired or turned down because of it?
Please only comment if you know someone in a similar situation.
Canada doesn't allow entry for DUI unless 5 years have passed.

Does the airline hire you and just assign you to non-Canada routes or simply not hire?

Not a dui but I got arrested in college and it was expunged. Never had any issue flying in the military or current airline. I always posted no arrests on any questions. Talk to a lawyer but my info was once expunged it really wasn't there.


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Why would you expect them to make your problem their problem?
You can’t expect to bypass seniority based line bidding because you can’t go somewhere and everybody else can.

Why you posting this in 6 different locations?
Its against forum rules.
Are you expecting different answers?

I say Mesa is a perfect fit due to him spamming every regional forum with the same crap

Put your paperwork in then sit down and have a few drinks and calm down.

Most airlines, if not all, will not hire you if you are unable to travel freely to all locations served. If you’re not allowed in Canada still then you likely are unhireable until that is resolved.

It’s typically ten years for them to overlook felonious convictions but can be zero years if you can convince them to issue you a waiver. Have you made contact with the Canadian consulate yet? If not I would get the ball rolling ASAP.

There is a list of people that can't and will not be used for Canada flying. There are a couple of easons why someone can't go to Canada.

I was hoping to hear from people in different airlines.

This is the most positive thing I've seen. Can you tell me more? What do I need to do, call the consulate or something? Please give me some details.

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You can apply for criminal rehabilitation at any Canadian Consulate whenever you want. You’ll have a greater chance of success if five years have passed since your restrictions concluded (probation can count too). Even if fifty years have passed, at any moment they can deny you entry.
What are the circumstances of your DUI conviction? Did it involved a collision or injuries or destruction of property? Are you a habitual alcohol user with prior issues? Have you had any other criminal convictions or even speeding tickets? They will want to know everything and then make a reasonable decision based on the totality of circumstances.

Too bad it’s not the other way for you. The US issues inadmissibility waivers frequently to anyone including murderers, rapists, and even terrorists. They need not wait even six months. The decision is made by a work group in VA now.

Source: I am a “retired” immigration officer.


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Careful. Some arrests will show up on the FBI database. And they probably will not be expunged from that... it's a national security system, not a public record. DUIs do show up there.

^^^THIS^^^

if, as you say, you got arrested in college then you got arrested. The fact that you got it expunged is all to the good, but if you tell a future aviation employer that you didn’t get arrested when you in fact did, and they find out about it, they are very likely to fire you immediately - for cause. And that you won’t be able to get expunged, it will dog you from there on...

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Canadian+expunge+US+DIU

No other conviction or arrests. No tickets of any kind ever. Not even a parking ticket. No problem with alcohol or any drugs.
I did rear end another car, but no injury and very minor property damage.
What do you think my chances would be?

With Canada, if it's been five years and you pay the (hefty) fee, odds are very high that you'll get your "rehabilitation". Then you can reasonably get hired at any regional. It's possible that some regionals may be desperate enough to hire you and just keep you off CA trips, but that's a real hard-spot with a seniority system so I kind of doubt it. Some WILL allow you to keep your job if you get a DUI while already employed, but I doubt many want to hire someone who cannot enter CA.

You'd definitely need to be rehabed for any major job I would think. Plus you'll have an uphill (but not insurmountable) battle just with the DUI history.

If you don't/can't get rehabilitated, you'd have to look for a regional which does not fly to canada, which is going to be only a handful, probably like Silver down in south FL.

You can't spam the forums, don't do it again.

that's going to stay on your record and can't be expunged... ;)

I wasn't aware of the rules. I thought I could ask the same question in different airline forums to get insight from people involved with all those different airlines. I still don't see why one shouldn't be allowed to ask the same question in more than one place.

ah ****ttt!!!! Do you guys report to FAA? If so, I'm screwed!!!

It's a pretty tight knit community. The redundancy is quickly seen. We want to know what flight schools people are going to in this side of the forum, or want to know what is going on at the airline "Joe" works at, or see the feedback from the new CBA from the airline "Jerry" works at, or find out why people have a disdain for this other airline. We're going to see it and it's unnecessary and annoying.

That makes sense. I wasn't very familiar with this. Now, I notices everybody is bashing Mesa Airlines. What's the deal with Mesa?

Rule number one:

Stop digging.

Thanks for your response. I think it's gonna be a tough battle for me since even though the DUI happened 3 and a half years ago, the probation only ended like 6 months ago.

Research the regionals, if none will take you (which have suitable bases for you) you can do corporate while you run the clock out. Might pay better than regionals anyway, although you might still want to do regionals when you can to progress your airline career. Depends on what the majors are looking for when you get to that point.

They're awful. It would take hours to explain it all.

But if they'll take you, that may be your best bet.

Think of it this way, anything that would motivate someone to choose Mesa(phx or dfw base, fast CA upgrade, opportunity for OT flying, pay) can be achieved better elsewhere.

As it was expressed above, if they'll take you, that might be your best bet. Some pills you just have to swallow and accept.

The first rule of aviation is RTFR, Read. The, *******ing. Rules. It’s a highly regulated industry, piles of paperwork, mountains of reading, and a assumption that you’ll do the work prior to showtime.

Would this show on an FBI check that someone had done on themself?

I believe that if you FOIA yourself, you should get anything that the airlines might see.

Be aware that regionals probably just do the bare minimum, ie SIDA check.

But majors (especially top-tier) may use commercial databases which capture court records at all levels (most of which are online) and resell that data. That could include expunged records, if they were captured before the expungement. The legality of using that sort of info varies by state.

Due to the complexity of the situation with court records and the federal Db, the conventional wisdom is if in doubt, disclose it. Generally it's better to not get hired, than to accept a job and then get fired later. Back in the day it was common to lose one regional new-hire per class to background issues which popped up during training. Less common at majors (some may do the checks before granting a class date).

You can always ask a lawyer, but get one who understands airline aviation issues.

If anybody knows for sure (varies by state anyway) I haven't heard from them.

This is good info, but bear in mind it does not address the FBI Db, which most private-sector employers do not have access to.

The FBI may does not expunge any records since their purpose is investigations and national security, not public records. Even if they're supposed, the judicial record system is a hodge-podge of systems run by low-paid government clerks at federal, state, and local levels. Ie, not necessarily reliable.