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Valiant 05-09-2020 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rightup (Post 3052708)
https://www.businessinsider.com/truc...-report-2020-5​​​​​​
There was a bloodbath in trucking last month. 90,000 jobs were cut. Also, look at respiratory therapist as an option unless you really like sticking your hands in a mouth.

So far major transit hubs with lots of intermodal hubs, airports and ports like Chicago, NY etc are doing OK. They are starting to ask for a lot more experience tho.

Nice to see I'm not the only trucking veteran who is contemplating aviation.

I'm not very picky when it comes to picking a profession. I can learn anything over time. It should be relatively comfortable, not too physically demanding and should have a decent income. For me. Making a difference, giving people a nice smile, giving back to community are usual/common bs jargon posterboys/gals throw out there to satisfy paper pushers i.e recruiters/interviewers etc.

Hate to sound cynical(already too much cynicism on here LMAO), but that's kinda the reality.

Valiant 05-09-2020 08:37 PM

Oh yeah OTR/TruckLoad trucking usually slows down after peak season(around Oct-Dec) in Spring months Feb-March/April.

Hiring is strongest before peak in months Aug/Sep-Nov

Do yourself and your family a favor try your hardest to get a local/hourly job.

Tankers and Carhauling are one of the best ways to make good chunka change.

In my opinion cent per mile(cpm) is the biggest scam in trucking. If u get paid through cpm you will not be making money sitting in traffic passing through LA for example. If you get paid hourly you still make money even if you are stuck in traffic, getting fuel etc some nice companies even give you overtime.

deftone 05-09-2020 10:01 PM

My brother is actually an owner/operator and he is always laughing at how he is making bank while Im beating up the pattern for $27k per year waiting for a class date (that was just pulled).

Sometimes I think he was the smart one! I know trucking is also hurting right now, but it sure seems like it would be a good gig long term.

rickair7777 05-10-2020 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by deftone (Post 3052746)
My brother is actually an owner/operator and he is always laughing at how he is making bank while Im beating up the pattern for $27k per year waiting for a class date (that was just pulled).

Sometimes I think he was the smart one! I know trucking is also hurting right now, but it sure seems like it would be a good gig long term.

I've got buds who do allright in trucking, HS friends who got on part-time with UPS in college, and just stuck with it because the economy sucked. Did package delivery for a long time but drive over-the-road now, out-and-back, home every night and about the best money you can make in the industry with a W2, plus the retirement. Paid like us, block or better.

But it still pales to the money and time off I had as a regional CA, to say nothing of the majors (they do get weekends off).

I've flown with folks who drove truck before flying, or during downturns... none of them seem to want to go back to it.

But it could be a decent fallback position for emergencies like this, easy skill to spool up when needed and can the bills while you wait for recall. But one thing it may not be so good for is loss of medical... truckers need a medical cert too. If you medical out, white-collar skills are probably the safest fallback.

LoneStar32 05-10-2020 07:32 AM

I have a friend who owns a business that supplies truck drivers on a contract basis to those who need it. He needed the small business stimulus money to keep from going under. There is no demand for extra drivers right now.

Sure, food and other essentials are still getting hauled. But what isn't are industrial items since almost everything is still closed. Also think about other things that get long hauled like furniture, appliances, etc. Stuff that isn't getting bought right now at a rate like it used to be. What about cars? Nobody and I mean nobody is buying a car right now (and please stop with I know a friend routine, I know there are always a one or two). I flew the 27L approach into PHL a couple weeks ago and to see that car lot just packed the brim with cars was just depressing. Usually it is only a quarter full, half maybe at the most. Now they have nowhere to go because all the dealer lots are full.

Also, and I really don't want to be a debbie downer here, but I like to be realistic. Replace saying "I think aircraft travel will recover quickly" with "I hope we aircraft travel will recover quickly." because in reality there has been zero indications that it will recover quickly. Those depressing TSA increases further prove that point. Remember when they all said this will only last 14 days and everything will be back to normal? Well, it's been two months with no end in sight.

rickair7777 05-10-2020 07:40 AM

Trucking will likely recover before air travel. And there was already a shortage of truckers.

Valiant 05-10-2020 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3052906)
Trucking will likely recover before air travel. And there was already a shortage of truckers.

Go to trucker forums. They likely also think there's no shortage of truckers. Just like pilots on here. Hahaha LMAO :D

Valiant 05-10-2020 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by LoneStar32 (Post 3052901)
I have a friend who owns a business that supplies truck drivers on a contract basis to those who need it. He needed the small business stimulus money to keep from going under. There is no demand for extra drivers right now.

Sure, food and other essentials are still getting hauled. But what isn't are industrial items since almost everything is still closed. Also think about other things that get long hauled like furniture, appliances, etc. Stuff that isn't getting bought right now at a rate like it used to be. What about cars? Nobody and I mean nobody is buying a car right now (and please stop with I know a friend routine, I know there are always a one or two). I flew the 27L approach into PHL a couple weeks ago and to see that car lot just packed the brim with cars was just depressing. Usually it is only a quarter full, half maybe at the most. Now they have nowhere to go because all the dealer lots are full.

Also, and I really don't want to be a debbie downer here, but I like to be realistic. Replace saying "I think aircraft travel will recover quickly" with "I hope we aircraft travel will recover quickly." because in reality there has been zero indications that it will recover quickly. Those depressing TSA increases further prove that point. Remember when they all said this will only last 14 days and everything will be back to normal? Well, it's been two months with no end in sight.

Yeah car hauling is slow right now. But generally is one of the best ways to make great money in trucking world. Tankers. Or if you really are a braveheart then Alaska ice road trucking(the special forces equivalent of trucking, where you have tons of sh!t thrown at you on an hourly basis).

LoneStar32 05-10-2020 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3052906)
Trucking will likely recover before air travel. And there was already a shortage of truckers.

No argument here. But the overall demand right now at this moment is low although there are still outfits hiring because they are projecting out when things pick back up.


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