I am a pilot for an airline and have been there for many years.. I have a restraining order court appearance coming up for domestic violence. Will this cause me to lose my job due to my requirement for security clearance.

 

When I turned in my PRIA forms. They told me I didn't need three of them because my flying was all military. Does united not do a background check with the military or with supervisors? I have heard they aren't allowed and an honorable discharge on a dd214 is all they look at. It seems odd they wouldn't even want to check with the military.

 

1. The military is NOT an aviation employer per PRIA law. So airlines to do not do a PRIA record check with the military. The military is also not affected by the PRIA and is thus not required to keep or return records anyway.

2. The DD-214 is the gold standard as far as employer insight into your military background. There's good reason for this; military record keeping has always been haphazard and it could be hard or impossible to contact previous CO's or units which may no longer exist. The military also will not release most records to such a request. This is why DD-214's came about in the first place. Otherwise the process of obtaining information about one's military service would not be fair and equitable.

I have heard of some majors asking to see FITREPs.

I'm not sure there's a legal barrier to an employer calling your former CO/unit, although the CO/Unit may be limited as to what they can say. If I got such a call (especially while on active duty) I would talk to the JAG before disclosing anything good or bad, unless I was being called as a personal reference vice a CO/supervisor.

You can of course use previous CO's/supervisors as personal references, and I would highly recommend this. A good reference from a boss or three will go a long towards shedding light on your military service.

 

Wow. Thank you for this. I wasn't aware of the limitations. It certainly makes sense.

 

One follow up question. How long does a check take? Class up date is in January. I imagine it is complete by then? I know a SSBI military check can take over a year at some points...but the scope of this check seems to be much less invasive.

 

You don't have a security clearance (unless you're military), so you cannot lose something you don't have..

A restraining order is not on the SIDA disqualification list and is not a conviction. So it won't affect your SIDA.

It's essentially a short-circuit of due process based on an unproven allegation so it's not really something an employer can use against you in most cases.

Typically an employer will have trouble terminating someone for unproven charges unless...

1) They're very serious and/or very public. In this case the employer may have a basis that your actions will damage the company image. Employers can expect their employees to live a low profile, non-controversial life. They also might decide that they cannot live with the negative publicity even if they have to fire you illegally and risk a lawsuit later.

2) You're AWOL because of pre-trial confinement/trial. In this case they get you for your absence. They have to give you leave to serve on a jury but not to serve as a defendant. For minor court appearances, the court will often allow you some flexibility so you DON'T lose your job.


You'll be fine. Restraining orders are divorce tactic 101, nobody believes they're anything but BS unless there's a conviction. If you actually get charged with anything, look up the SIDA dis-qualifiers and make sure your lawyer knows that you CANNOT get a conviction for one of those (or jail time obviously).

 

Actually it takes a few weeks typically. But because of the expense employers will often not start the process (or all of it) until AFTER you show up for class (especially regionals). The background check must be complete before you fly the line, but thats many weeks after ground training. If you fail it, they'll have NO problem firing you even though you may have quit your previous job to come work for them. This is why it's important to be 100% honest and err on the side of disclosure if in doubt.

If your record is clean you have nothing to worry about. Worst case if a mistake pops up you *should* be given an opportunity to address/correct it before getting fired.

 

How does the 10 year background check work if I was employed overseas?
I have not been back to the US for 9 years, been employed overseas with credible contacts for my employment with a couple small 4 month gaps between work..

 

Information about PRIA. I know this was asked before, but I can't find it. When a airline ask's you to fill out PRIA forms, can they access your faa records from 23 years back, I read somewhere it is only five years back? I failed my PP way back, do they see that on my faa record? Any response would be helpful.

 

What about the credit part? I have 'fair' credit (625-650). Long story short, I thought my mortgage was on autopay for 5 months in 2015 while deployed. Clearly, it was not. There were a few other minor late payments here and there for the same reason over the years..but that was the one big one.

I have a request into the lender to remove the incident from my report but that's a long shot.

Worried about how that may effect hiring.

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