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StripAlert 09-27-2007 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by 71Kilo (Post 237970)
Make sure you explain why you don't speed or break rules anymore.

That's a great way to put it, since I don't speed anyless, either. ;)

YawDamper 08-31-2014 06:52 PM

Hi guys, Thanks for all the great info. I was wondering which website you used to find your driving record? It seems that everything online is not secure and I just want to go through a legit website for my NDR. Thanks!

Pilotdude3407 09-01-2014 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by YawDamper (Post 1716816)
Hi guys, Thanks for all the great info. I was wondering which website you used to find your driving record? It seems that everything online is not secure and I just want to go through a legit website for my NDR. Thanks!


I just went to my local DMV and asked for the longest driving record they could produce. It was a 7yr one and I just put everything it said on there on to my app.

YawDamper 09-01-2014 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407 (Post 1717060)
I just went to my local DMV and asked for the longest driving record they could produce. It was a 7yr one and I just put everything it said on there on to my app.

Thats a good idea. I've moved bases several times, so I've been in different states. I don't think I can get my GA driving record from VA, can I?

Olario 09-01-2014 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by YawDamper (Post 1717083)
Thats a good idea. I've moved bases several times, so I've been in different states. I don't think I can get my GA driving record from VA, can I?

An airline can look back as far as they want, so can you. I went to my local DMV and explained I needed a history from day 1. They printed me my 17 year history. It was important to me because I had:
4 speeding
2 wreckless
2 other tickets
and Revoked license.

They appreciated my honesty. All those tickets happened in a period of less than 24 months. Last ticket was 14 years ago.
I bouht a Yamaha R-1 in college and went stupid....
Got hired by Delta

Nothing, let me repeat, NOTHING ever gets erased. If it was in your record at one point in time, its still there and it is traceable. Your DMV might choose to withold that information for certain purposes, but if somebody really wants to dig they will find it.
Delta for example, as most airlines, hires a company to do your background check. Thats all they do. They know exactly where to go to find your info.
Just be honest. An FO I flew with recently just got fired right after trainning for having a background that did not match his app.

YawDamper 09-01-2014 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Olario (Post 1717093)
An airline can look back as far as they want, so can you. I went to my local DMV and explained I needed a history from day 1. They printed me my 17 year history. It was important to me because I had:
4 speeding
2 wreckless
2 other tickets
and Revoked license.

They appreciated my honesty. All those tickets happened in a period of less than 24 months. Last ticket was 14 years ago.
I bouht a Yamaha R-1 in college and went stupid....
Got hired by Delta

Nothing, let me repeat, NOTHING ever gets erased. If it was in your record at one point in time, its still there and it is traceable. Your DMV might choose to withold that information for certain purposes, but if somebody really wants to dig they will find it.
Delta for example, as most airlines, hires a company to do your background check. Thats all they do. They know exactly where to go to find your info.
Just be honest. An FO I flew with recently just got fired right after trainning for having a background that did not match his app.


Good advise. I'll head to the DMV tomorrow and see what they have on me. thanks!

xjtpilot 09-01-2014 11:34 AM

Honesty goes a long way, it's better to list everything than not list it and stress that you will be terminated for falsification.

MikeF16 09-01-2014 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Olario (Post 1717093)
... An FO I flew with recently just got fired right after trainning for having a background that did not match his app.

OUCH! Any idea what the discrepancy was?

FYI, I also listed every ticket I could remember. I knew I got 1 or 2 in the high school to college time frame so I listed 3 and approximated the dates and locations just so one wouldn't pop that I didn't list. I also listed "transom riding" which is a boating offense in AZ which I got in 2008. My interviewers seemed to find it more funny than anything else. I also had a friend hired by UAL who had a college-era drunk and disorderly and he was hired. I'd have to go with the folks telling you to just list what you did.

OnCenterline 09-01-2014 02:04 PM

In the words of the immortal Cliffy Claven, "Here's a little known fact..."

Some companies use the FBI for all or part of the background check. If they do that, every aspect of your driving record will surface. Trans States Holdings does this, and they informed my thusly before I submitted my application.

Their suggestion was to put down as much as you can remember. Specific dates can be fuzzy (I had 2 tickets 20 years prior in college, but the dates and details had long slipped my mind), and that's fine. Just be as honest as you can be.

I did the same with UA, and got hired.

The common thread here is that the NDR might just barely scratch the surface.

Pilotdude3407 09-01-2014 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Olario (Post 1717093)
An FO I flew with recently just got fired right after trainning for having a background that did not match his app.


I would assume he either didn't put something big on his app, or it was something on his app he said he did but never did. I doubt any airline would fire you for making a mistake...even Delta. They WILL fire you if you are fraudulent in what you put on your app in an attempt to deceive them.


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