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Old 02-19-2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
You were concerned your multi time was off by .2? I appreciate your attention to detail, but does 12 minutes of misappropriated multi time affect anything?
YES, it makes a difference.

When I went through the Phase III interview with a major carrier, everything went very well and I thought I was "in". A telephone call 2 days later from HR said they were holding my application until I could provide an explanation as to why my flight times did not add up. I was less than 2 hours off on my total flight times in an 8,000+ hr. logbook. I found the error, provided a brief written explanation, signed the form and was hired.

The old adage about never misrepresenting anything on an application is very true. My advice to the younger pilots, always complete an application truthfully because every employer is going to verify your records and be honest about any "transgressions", i.e., DWI's, traffic violations, difficulties with previous employers, etc.

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Old 02-19-2009 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by VAviator
. And any other suggestions other than Logbook Pro?
Everybody had additive errors, and as a couple of folks said just note the mistake clearly. I've got whiteout, scratch marks, ink blots, coffee stains, etc. As long as what you're doing is clearly noted it's not going to be a problem with anyone who's "normal".

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were holding my application until I could provide an explanation as to why my flight times did not add up. I was less than 2 hours off
That says a lot. They can't make a profit (unless they're SWA, and I haven't heard this about them) and their books probably can't stand up to any real scrutiny, but they focus resources on something this trivial. In any case having a digital printout from a good computer logbook should help.

Logbook Pro is a good choice. It has an excellent import/export feature to Excel and .csv files, so you can transfer your data to another program - or manipulate your data - properly. Other choices are Safelog (Dauntless Software), AeroLog (Polaris Microsystems), and FlightLevel Logbook (Flight Level Logbook - The Pilots Logbook Choice).
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Old 02-20-2009 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Phantom Flyer
YES, it makes a difference.

When I went through the Phase III interview with a major carrier, everything went very well and I thought I was "in". A telephone call 2 days later from HR said they were holding my application until I could provide an explanation as to why my flight times did not add up. I was less than 2 hours off on my total flight times in an 8,000+ hr. logbook. I found the error, provided a brief written explanation, signed the form and was hired.

The old adage about never misrepresenting anything on an application is very true. My advice to the younger pilots, always complete an application truthfully because every employer is going to verify your records and be honest about any "transgressions", i.e., DWI's, traffic violations, difficulties with previous employers, etc.

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Ahh, the good old days back when yo-nited was hiring
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Old 02-20-2009 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
You were concerned your multi time was off by .2? I appreciate your attention to detail, but does 12 minutes of misappropriated multi time affect anything?
Hell no, only if they intend to view you thru a proctoscope instead of a microscope; if they are that anal, you probably are better off not hired there.

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Old 02-21-2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lori Clark
Best rule of thumb is NOT to use white out. Correcting entries are best. Even if you are correcting something that has been carried over for many pages, one entry on your current page will suffice. Reference the entry where the mistake occurred.
I can understand that perfectly. But I have another question. I was filling out the dates on one page and didn't realize till later that I gaffed them up. If I was to use green out to fix the dates, would that look bad as well? It's an entire page.It doesn't have anything to do with times and I'm lucky that they still add up correctly.
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Old 02-22-2009 | 03:30 AM
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I would simply leave it as is, put a remark in one of the columns or as we did in the military for official log books put (1) straight diagonal line through your error, write in the correct date and we would usually initial our correction but that should not be necessary in this case. The reason being as Lori mentioned, people want to see your mistakes and what you are hiding.
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Old 02-22-2009 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TimoC
Ahh, the good old days back when yo-nited was hiring
Amen brother. That was also a time when there were 10,000+ applicants and the average flight time in my new hire class was 6,850 hours with a lot of type ratings and there were 3 retired military pilots in the class. Who would have thought that 40+ year olds would be hired by anyone, much less a major carrier.

As for yo-nited hiring, me thinks those days are gone. It's a new day but not necessarily a brighter one.

Y'all be carefull out there !!

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Old 02-22-2009 | 07:51 PM
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Does logbook pro allow you to make custom queries for those oddball experience requirements, like Multi-Turbine-PIC-Night-XC?
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Old 02-22-2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by friendlyskies
Does logbook pro allow you to make custom queries for those oddball experience requirements, like Multi-Turbine-PIC-Night-XC?
I wasn't able to break that one down specifically, but a real expert might be able to. The filter is pretty good overall.
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Old 02-23-2009 | 11:12 AM
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I've downloaded and started using the evaluation version of Logbook Pro. Everything seems to work well and it's fairly user friendly for someone with experience with Microsoft programs.

But what is the deal with the Standard and Professional editions? The website says the Standard edition can be for one logbook on one computer. Does that mean just one computer at a time, or only loaded on to a computer once. Considering I'm already on my fourth computer, I think I'll be needing to load it on to another computer in the future. Anyone know if that can be done?

Thanks.
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