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alpar80 05-21-2010 04:35 PM

Background checks
 
Do you know what source the airlines use for background checks? I am interested in applying however, some minor mishaps that happened in the past, I am not sure if they are still listed...

bigoober 05-21-2010 05:22 PM

State driver's license records, previous airline training records, FAA records.

Advice is to list it and have a good lessons learned story to go along with it even if you think it is no longer on any records. No faster way to be booted out of an interview or terminated from employment than by trying to cover up any past misfortune. My take is that they will always find out eventually.

MarineGrunt 05-21-2010 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by bigoober (Post 815226)
State driver's license records, previous airline training records, FAA records.

Advice is to list it and have a good lessons learned story to go along with it even if you think it is no longer on any records. No faster way to be booted out of an interview or terminated from employment than by trying to cover up any past misfortune. My take is that they will always find out eventually.

This.

I've done stupid crap too. Even though it was "expunged," I'm fessing up anyway, that way I have nothing to fear.

Phantom Flyer 05-23-2010 07:11 AM

Best Advice on this Forum
 

Originally Posted by bigoober (Post 815226)
State driver's license records, previous airline training records, FAA records.

Advice is to list it and have a good lessons learned story to go along with it even if you think it is no longer on any records. No faster way to be booted out of an interview or terminated from employment than by trying to cover up any past misfortune. My take is that they will always find out eventually.

Absolutely the best advice anyone can take or give during the application process !

When I was hired at a major, I was amazed at the depth of the background checks. After being involved in the pilot application/interview process, for a number of years, I'll tell you it's solid advice to be ready to explain everything that might be construed as a "blip" in your background. If you're not asked, no problem but don't ever misrepresent anything or you'll find the interview is "very short".

G'Luck Mate:)

atpwannabe 05-23-2010 09:45 AM

Exactly what everyone else has said. It can't be stressed enough.

However, to give you an idea, your potential employer will do an NCIC check, State law enforcement check (whichever state you live in);and a credit check.


atp

rickair7777 05-23-2010 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe (Post 815879)
Exactly what everyone else has said. It can't be stressed enough.

However, to give you an idea, your potential employer will do an NCIC check, State law enforcement check (whichever state you live in);and a credit check.


atp

Also they may look at state civil court records (lawsuits), call references and past employers, etc, etc.

If they employ an outside background check agency there are legal limits as to what they can dig into, and how far back...but if they do it all in house anything is fair game.

nfnsquared 05-25-2010 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by alpar80 (Post 815213)
Do you know what source the airlines use for background checks? I am interested in applying however, some minor mishaps that happened in the past, I am not sure if they are still listed...

Well, for expunged offenses, it depends on what the application asks for. Some may ask for any offense no matter how minor and no matter if it was expunged. In that case, I'd say be totally honest.

If the application only asks for "on record" offenses, then I'd see no reason to mention anything that has been expunged from your record. But you need to make damn sure that it has indeed been expunged if you decide leave it off your application....As already mentioned, the surest way to the door is a discrepancy...

Oldog 05-29-2010 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by alpar80 (Post 815213)
Do you know what source the airlines use for background checks? I am interested in applying however, some minor mishaps that happened in the past, I am not sure if they are still listed...

Airlines use multiple sources, including the government for TSA-required background checks. I agree with Phantom Flyer -- be upfront about everything. BS about your previous history -- especially if it's an attempt to cover up or prevaricate -- usually results in instant dismissal when discovered.

atpwannabe 05-30-2010 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 815885)
Also they may look at state civil court records (lawsuits), call references and past employers, etc, etc.

If they employ an outside background check agency there are legal limits as to what they can dig into, and how far back...but if they do it all in house anything is fair game.

Yeah you're so right. I think that in most cases this is what hinders some from being offered employment. JMO though.


atp


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