Arrest as a minor
08-28-2010, 10:09 AM
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Arrest as a minor
hey Lori,
So Ive got a skeleton in the closet.
Years ago as a juvenile 16 at the time I got picked up by the cops. Basically hanging out with the wrong crowd. The arrest was for shoplifting. Funny thing was we actually freaked out and put the thing back, but 3 of us still got busted. peer pressure bad influence kind of thing. This was 12 years ago. Good thing was that I did community service and there was no conviction and it was dismissed. I did a records check on myself with the FBI and the court house and nothing turned up. I did however placed a call to the local police and turns out that they do have some sort of record although they cant disclose the details to me. I remembered asking the probation officer at the time if I get the dreaded question "have you been convicted" on an app what would I say. she said put "no". She told me I would put "no" because California law says so. So my question. On a 121 app what should I disclose? I dont want to divulge in to detail if i dont have too. most say "have you ever been convicted?" Would I put yes and explain that it was dismissed? or put no and just explain the arrest below? I did however get a question on an interview "have you been arrested?" so what should i do? Do you think this will prevent me from a 121 job? I have looked to get it sealed, but it says that it will not prevent certain govt agencies from having access to your records.
any feedback will help... oh and also no trouble since then only an isolated incident. although ive had a few traffic tickets.
So Ive got a skeleton in the closet.
Years ago as a juvenile 16 at the time I got picked up by the cops. Basically hanging out with the wrong crowd. The arrest was for shoplifting. Funny thing was we actually freaked out and put the thing back, but 3 of us still got busted. peer pressure bad influence kind of thing. This was 12 years ago. Good thing was that I did community service and there was no conviction and it was dismissed. I did a records check on myself with the FBI and the court house and nothing turned up. I did however placed a call to the local police and turns out that they do have some sort of record although they cant disclose the details to me. I remembered asking the probation officer at the time if I get the dreaded question "have you been convicted" on an app what would I say. she said put "no". She told me I would put "no" because California law says so. So my question. On a 121 app what should I disclose? I dont want to divulge in to detail if i dont have too. most say "have you ever been convicted?" Would I put yes and explain that it was dismissed? or put no and just explain the arrest below? I did however get a question on an interview "have you been arrested?" so what should i do? Do you think this will prevent me from a 121 job? I have looked to get it sealed, but it says that it will not prevent certain govt agencies from having access to your records.
any feedback will help... oh and also no trouble since then only an isolated incident. although ive had a few traffic tickets.
09-04-2010, 09:14 AM
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The biggest thing you have to worry about is the Criminal History Records Check (CHRC).
When a juvenile has been tried as an adult, then the criminal record is applicable. Otherwise, juvenile records should not be considered for purposes of the criminal history records check statute.
This is from the TSA office of Chief Counsel and is provided to airline and airport badging people who are responsible for adjudicating "hits" that are returned during the FBI background check.
From an HR perspective, how they would look upon this is hit or miss and will probably vary from airline to airline. If they look at it fairly, they would have to ask themselves who hasn't shoplifted when they were a kid.
When a juvenile has been tried as an adult, then the criminal record is applicable. Otherwise, juvenile records should not be considered for purposes of the criminal history records check statute.
This is from the TSA office of Chief Counsel and is provided to airline and airport badging people who are responsible for adjudicating "hits" that are returned during the FBI background check.
From an HR perspective, how they would look upon this is hit or miss and will probably vary from airline to airline. If they look at it fairly, they would have to ask themselves who hasn't shoplifted when they were a kid.
09-05-2010, 08:55 AM
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I had the same kind of incident, although it wasn't for shoplifting, when I was 17. I did not get convicted, just arrested. I recently had an interview with an airline, and they asked me if I had ever been arrested. I told them that I had when I was 17, but not convicted. Told them the entire story. Actually was my fault, stupid kid being a stupid kid. They had me write an account of what happened for my file. I was still offered the job. Just be honest.
09-05-2010, 09:42 AM
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Yeah....employers have gotten smart so to speak. In some instances on applications they don't ask whether or not if you've been convicted anymore; no, they want to know if you've ever been arrested. To some dropped charges mean nothing. Understand that a background check, whether criminal, credit, or employment; that the primary purpose is to eliminate. Having said that, being that this infraction occured while you were still a juvenile, I don't think that you have any worries.
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