Yet another driving history question.
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Yet another driving history question.
Ok, so here is my driving history:
***9/21/2011 Speeding (49 in a 40)
***2/4/2011 Failure to properly secure cargo (mattress flew off
the back of my truck and hit another car, face palm)
***8/18/2008 Speeding (64 in a 55)
7/1/2002 Speeding (43 in a 35)
7/1/1999 Not wearing seat belt
5/1/1999 Speeding (66 in a 55)
So my first question is, (let's use Eagle for example purposes) do you think this history will keep my from getting an interview or getting hired?
Secondly, and this is where I am struggling ethically, only the first 3 violations show up on any driving record that I've come up with. And trust me I've searched and searched a searched, but can't find the last three anywhere.
Is Eagle only using the driving record that I bring to them, or are they doing a separate search on their own?
Would you list the last three knowing you can't find them anywhere?
Thank you for advance. I did not go to driving school for any of them, just paid the fine and moved on with life. And I'm using Eagle mainly because of airlineapps which doesn't seem to have a 5-10 year history like some of the other ones.
Ryan
***9/21/2011 Speeding (49 in a 40)
***2/4/2011 Failure to properly secure cargo (mattress flew off
the back of my truck and hit another car, face palm)
***8/18/2008 Speeding (64 in a 55)
7/1/2002 Speeding (43 in a 35)
7/1/1999 Not wearing seat belt
5/1/1999 Speeding (66 in a 55)
So my first question is, (let's use Eagle for example purposes) do you think this history will keep my from getting an interview or getting hired?
Secondly, and this is where I am struggling ethically, only the first 3 violations show up on any driving record that I've come up with. And trust me I've searched and searched a searched, but can't find the last three anywhere.
Is Eagle only using the driving record that I bring to them, or are they doing a separate search on their own?
Would you list the last three knowing you can't find them anywhere?
Thank you for advance. I did not go to driving school for any of them, just paid the fine and moved on with life. And I'm using Eagle mainly because of airlineapps which doesn't seem to have a 5-10 year history like some of the other ones.
Ryan
Last edited by MedicRyan; 02-05-2013 at 05:06 PM. Reason: update
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From what I understand, the only thing potential employers look for, or ask for is a request for your NDR, which doesn't cover actual speeding tickets/infractions. It is there for suspension of license, warrants for arrest etc. Either way, who knows what they get, it may be your state record. just be honest.
#5
I think you will be OK... I've noticed that most places are concerned with offenses such as; DUI, DWAI, Reckless Driving, etc. Everyone speeds, some are caught in the act and some get away with it.. Whatever you decide, do not give them the impression that your are lying or trying to hide something.
Funny story..: When my friend from high school was 17, he threw an ice cream cone out of his window. The ice cream ended up landing smack center in a woman's windshield. Within one hour, my friend was pulled over and giving a citation. He was cited for "ejecting a missile out of a moving vehicle". Can you imagine having to explain that in an interview? Thank God he was able to get it reduced..
Funny story..: When my friend from high school was 17, he threw an ice cream cone out of his window. The ice cream ended up landing smack center in a woman's windshield. Within one hour, my friend was pulled over and giving a citation. He was cited for "ejecting a missile out of a moving vehicle". Can you imagine having to explain that in an interview? Thank God he was able to get it reduced..
#7
Eagle is the most likely of the regionals to be anal about something like this, but given that they are offering $5K signing bonuses, who knows.
In order to obtain info on lesser (non-DUI) vehicle infractions, employers generally need to go to the state in question. Even if they went to every state you've lived in/held a license in, they still might miss a ticket that you got in another state. Also not all states seem to keep good records going back very far. An employer might also hire an applicant screening service to do the digging although there are legal limitations on that.
Basically it's a crap shoot. If you can't find it, odds are reasonable that they won't either. But the stakes are very high...
They usually don't spend the time and money on extensive background checks until AFTER you show up for class...if they find something you didn't report (usually about two weeks into ground school), you'll be pulled out of class, given an opportunity to dispute what they found, and then terminated. You now have no job, but have been employed by a 121 carrier, and fired for lying. You have a very short, and very ugly PRIA record. Your brief, brilliant, airline career is most likely over for good.
Any typical new-hire class at any regional has one these occurrences, especially a large class. There's always some noob who thinks they won't bother, won't find out, or won't care. He's wrong.
Conventional wisdom is don't lie, but only you can make the call. How comfortable are you having it hanging over your head.
In order to obtain info on lesser (non-DUI) vehicle infractions, employers generally need to go to the state in question. Even if they went to every state you've lived in/held a license in, they still might miss a ticket that you got in another state. Also not all states seem to keep good records going back very far. An employer might also hire an applicant screening service to do the digging although there are legal limitations on that.
Basically it's a crap shoot. If you can't find it, odds are reasonable that they won't either. But the stakes are very high...
They usually don't spend the time and money on extensive background checks until AFTER you show up for class...if they find something you didn't report (usually about two weeks into ground school), you'll be pulled out of class, given an opportunity to dispute what they found, and then terminated. You now have no job, but have been employed by a 121 carrier, and fired for lying. You have a very short, and very ugly PRIA record. Your brief, brilliant, airline career is most likely over for good.
Any typical new-hire class at any regional has one these occurrences, especially a large class. There's always some noob who thinks they won't bother, won't find out, or won't care. He's wrong.
Conventional wisdom is don't lie, but only you can make the call. How comfortable are you having it hanging over your head.
#8
I've never heard of anyone asking about moving violations for further back than 5 years. Most states only keep the records for 5 years, which is why you've not found them an also why no one asks going back that far. So, I wouldn't sweat the last three. But just read the questions they ask carefully and answer them honestly and you'll have nothing to fear.
As to the first three. Two speeds is higher than the norm, but given then need for regional pilots currently, I doubt it will be anything more than an extra question in an interview.
As to the first three. Two speeds is higher than the norm, but given then need for regional pilots currently, I doubt it will be anything more than an extra question in an interview.
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