Applying to a major. I received a letter of warning back in 2010. According to the letter, it will be explunged from my record after 2 years. On the back it has information that talks about PRIA. It states that administrative actions are NOT released under PRIA nor is non-sole source ASAP reports released to freedom of information act requests.

My question is do I report this if asked if I have administrative action? It is no longer on my record and it says that it won't be released. If I do report it, will that hurt my chances of getting hired?

 

If it asks, "Have you ever" I would answer yes.

 

I had this same thing happen in the mid 90's at a commuter. Got a letter of warning and it was expunged in two years. I started getting my interviews before the two years was up, so I put it on there. Both majors asked about it and seemed happy with my explanation of the event.

My take was that they just wanted me to take ownership of the event.

When asked "if the ground personnel were at fault, why were you even questioned about this?"

"Because I was the Captain."

End of question, got job offers from both.

 

Reporting the incident may indeed lower your chances. Lying about it and getting caught could mean you losing your job and never being hired in this industry again.

Do not lie and you'll be fine. Learn from the incident and be able to explain it to the interviewers if it comes up.

 

Best wishes, let us know how it goes.

 

It does not show up in PRIA you do not need to tell them. But if it makes you sleep better then tell them.

 

I would tell them about the letter. If the company were to hear from you that yes, I did receive a letter of warning, and here is what I learned from it. I made a mistake, got the letter, and changed <blank> about it. It shows responsibility to fess up. How many major airline pilots have over/under shot an altitude, taxied on the wrong taxiway, dinged a wingtip, forgot to turn on pitots, lights, pumps, etc. Yet these guys/ girls are still flying. The airlines know all pilots will make mistakes. The best admit their errors, and go forward.

 

Same for a letter of correction??

 

This is a good question. I did safety work for a few years while flying and worked directly with an ASAP program for a major carrier. The answer to this depends on how the application question is worded. If they ask about FAA administrative action, then you should to tell them - even if it has been expunged. If they ask about FAA violations, then you do not. In your letter of warning it should state that "an alleged violation" took place and it was closed out with a letter of warning (or a letter of correction). We were told (by attorneys) that because it says "alleged" in the letter and there are no details of the event in the letter, then the pilot does not legally have to state that he has an FAA violation on his record.

However, I agree with most on here that the probable intent of the question on on the application is for the pilot to be honest and take ownership of the event and explain how you've learned from it, etc.... No pilot is perfect and ASAP is a good program for everyone, including the company. No need to hide the event or lie about it and if an airline is excluding pilot candidates from being hired because they've used ASAP, then maybe this isn't an airline that any pilot would want to work for.

Hope that helps, good luck.

 

I had a letter in my file show up in my PRIA package that was 9 years old. It was a write up from a co worker that had no merit. I got called in for a carpet dance over the letter I walked out a free man and was totally cleared as a bogus write up. Low and behold is showed up in my PRIA package 9 years later. You just never know.