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Old 12-03-2013, 04:14 AM
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Hello everyone, im Zach

Im currently in a 4 yr aviation science program and having alot of fun flying. But recently I have been checking out some other flight schools and noticing I could be taking some other better routes to reach my goal of becoming a Airline Pilot. So the other day I found Aerosim. I noticed immediately that I receive double the amount of ratings and flight hours in a year than I would in 4 years at my college. Here's how I was looking at things.

Im now 19.
Graduating after 4 years in college and having a degree in aviation science. I will have my PPL, IR, Commercial and CFI. and only 250-300TT.

If I do the 1yr program at Aerosim. I will probably finish up before I turn 21.Graduate from their program with around 400TT . PPL, IR, Commercial in Single and Multiengine. CFI, CFII, and have a chance of getting a job with them. Than after that flight instructing and earning a associates degree until I turn 23 to join a regional.

To me it seems as though I will be way ahead of the game if I did aerosim. When I graduate the college with only 250-300TT I will still have to grind for a couple of years and work on ME time aswell since my college doesnt offer it. So that means I will probably be around 25 26 yrs old before I can join. If I did aerosim I would be more than ready to join a airline at 23 than if I graduated with the degree.

I kind of summarized everything up here because I am on my phone. But thoughts and ideas would be great!
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:13 AM
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Stay in college..I left college for a fancy flight school after a year and a half, promising myself I'd finish a degree soon after flight school. Well, I haven't and it's been almost 6 years. And honestly, it didn't get me any more ahead of guys exactly my age that finished college.
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So your choices are:

Graduate with a 4 year degree and your ratings and be 1200 hours short of an ATP, but with a CFI.

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Pilot Mill and end up without a degree and a boatload of debt, but only 1100 hours shy of an ATP?


How about get a real degree (not an aviation degree) and pay as you go at the local fbo. With the new ATP requirements you're looking at 1500 hours, plan to instruct. If you are going to instruct don't let loan forbearance interest eat you alive before you even starting paying the loan. In other words, stay out of debt and for the love of christ, stay away from an 4 year Airways Science degree.
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So your choices are:

Graduate with a 4 year degree and your ratings and be 1200 hours short of an ATP, but with a CFI.

or,

Pilot Mill and end up without a degree and a boatload of debt, but only 1100 hours shy of an ATP?


How about get a real degree (not an aviation degree) and pay as you go at the local fbo. With the new ATP requirements you're looking at 1500 hours, plan to instruct. If you are going to instruct don't let loan forbearance interest eat you alive before you even starting paying the loan. In other words, stay out of debt and for the love of christ, stay away from an 4 year Airways Science degree.
^^^^ Adding to the above, get the degree and go get your CFI, CFII, MEI at a local FBO. Then go instruct for Aerosim or other pilot mills to build the time. Avoid the debt and the degree will help your resume later.
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I agree, get the degree and then worry about the flight time. If you switch to a non-aviation degree, it's a bonus.
I graduated from ERAU IN '93 and spent 3 long years on furlough after 9/11. My Aeronautical Science degree opened fewer doors than my high school diploma. Good luck, Erik
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Get a BA/BS in something you can lean on. The outside world doesn't understand a degree in 'aviation xxx' . There are many flying accountants/doctors/lawyers out there in airline cockpits. You can bang out the flying part at an All ATP's type program later and have no prob getting picked up.
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I understand the reason you guys are saying dont get a degree in aviation science. But my uncle who flew ch-46's in the marines flew the cessna citation in the marines and is now flying the A320 for JetBlue thinks otherwise. He would prefer me go all in and get a AS degree and get my flight training as well.
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But my uncle who flew ch-46's in the marines flew the cessna citation in the marines and is now flying the A320 for JetBlue thinks otherwise. He would prefer me go all in and get a AS degree and get my flight training as well.
Then why come onto the web board and ask such a question if you believe your uncle? Go with what the family member suggests.
I understand the reason you guys are saying dont get a degree in aviation science.
You can only lead the horse to water.............
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AS degree and get my flight training as well.
An AS degree is "all in"? That fact that you have a family member encouraging a career in aviation is suspect.

+1 on leading a horse to water.
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If I do the 1yr program at Aerosim. I will probably finish up before I turn 21.Graduate from their program with around 400TT . PPL, IR, Commercial in Single and Multiengine. CFI, CFII, and have a chance of getting a job with them.
Be lucky if you get 200 TT at Aerosim.
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