Yes, I'm really asking!!
02-22-2014 | 03:30 AM
#11
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From: 737-Right
Sage advice. for this gentleman. I don't pretend to have OP's qualifications, but in corporate you run into people that like to have a military guy around. More often than not it seems like some business owners enjoy being able to brag about having a military guy around. Military men are known for being able to quietly handle business, and even go above and beyond. The prior military corporate guys I know simply make sure everything is ready. Clean, serviced, maintained aircraft, paperwork, receipts, tax documents to the company accountants and so on. Most people just don't roll up their sleeves and RUN the flight department.
I know the OP said his goal was to be a legacy right seater, but flying 400 hours a year for a company that adores you and has you home almost every night is great.
Plus, with corporate, sometimes you can take significant others or children along on company trips if there are empty seats.
I've flown a couple to the caribbean so they could get on a friend's yacht. They let me bring a friend, and paid our expenses to hang out for a week.
I know the OP said his goal was to be a legacy right seater, but flying 400 hours a year for a company that adores you and has you home almost every night is great.
Plus, with corporate, sometimes you can take significant others or children along on company trips if there are empty seats.
I've flown a couple to the caribbean so they could get on a friend's yacht. They let me bring a friend, and paid our expenses to hang out for a week.
02-22-2014 | 05:23 AM
#12
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XJT has DFW also. However, right now it is expressmess. Deal with it if you want. Not saying other regionals don't have problems, but this is getting out of control fast. We need new management that will acknowlege and take action to fix the problems. To get other management out of their positions.
02-22-2014 | 05:37 AM
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Having flown in the corp world, the military never really had an advantage. They want a grey hair and no fighter jet jocks.
More than once, we've rescued a sim instructor.
Just be sure to get on with a quality outfit. Corp offices that lease out their planes to 135 ops should be avoided.
More than once, we've rescued a sim instructor.
Just be sure to get on with a quality outfit. Corp offices that lease out their planes to 135 ops should be avoided.
Sage advice. for this gentleman. I don't pretend to have OP's qualifications, but in corporate you run into people that like to have a military guy around. More often than not it seems like some business owners enjoy being able to brag about having a military guy around. Military men are known for being able to quietly handle business, and even go above and beyond. The prior military corporate guys I know simply make sure everything is ready. Clean, serviced, maintained aircraft, paperwork, receipts, tax documents to the company accountants and so on. Most people just don't roll up their sleeves and RUN the flight department.
I know the OP said his goal was to be a legacy right seater, but flying 400 hours a year for a company that adores you and has you home almost every night is great.
Plus, with corporate, sometimes you can take significant others or children along on company trips if there are empty seats.
I've flown a couple to the caribbean so they could get on a friend's yacht. They let me bring a friend, and paid our expenses to hang out for a week.
I know the OP said his goal was to be a legacy right seater, but flying 400 hours a year for a company that adores you and has you home almost every night is great.
Plus, with corporate, sometimes you can take significant others or children along on company trips if there are empty seats.
I've flown a couple to the caribbean so they could get on a friend's yacht. They let me bring a friend, and paid our expenses to hang out for a week.
02-22-2014 | 05:51 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Generalization.
Corporate flying is varied.
CrimsonEclipse said:
I know quite a few 'fighter jocks' flying corporate/fractionals/etc....
If this is your experience, why do you think that is?
Corporate flying is varied.
CrimsonEclipse said:
They want a grey hair and no fighter jet jocks.
If this is your experience, why do you think that is?
02-22-2014 | 07:49 AM
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Like a Boomer Capt needing to be mellow and calm.
02-22-2014 | 08:28 AM
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From: FAA 'Flight Check'
Military aviators actually are wonderful at mitigating much of the risk.
Those are huge stereotypes and if that is what someone believes then they are as misinformed about military fighter aviation as they are ignorant of typical pilot behavior.
Yes - showboating is the sole purview of military fighter pilots
They certainly wouldn't want the multi-tasking abilities and attention to detail that *most* fighter pilots would bring to the table. They are much more likely to lose control of themselves and come into the break for landing in the corporate jet and put every to sleep in back.
02-22-2014 | 09:35 AM
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I've never had a problem flying corporate with former fighter jocks. The owner of my company is a prior Army Commander that loves having us Air Force types around. Sometimes the owner thinks we are the only people in the company that understand him. The flight department is a relaxed but tightly run atmosphere he retreats to when he wants to get away from other corporate drama.
As for being on call 24/7, life is an adventure. I'm on call 24/7, and when the handful of times I get called with minimal notice happens, I'm excited for the adventure. I'm always sober and ready to go. if something important is coming up for me, I'll give them a few weeks notice. In two years, I've had one scheduling conflict. The winner is always the company. You get a lot of free time in most corporate jobs. Don't waste it. Spend it on your loved ones and make sure they care and understand when you miss something important. Standard life rules for any hardworking professional, if you ask me. It's far easier on my family than the military ever was. I wont complain about having time off but being on call when my friends at the regionals just assume they will be completely gone 6 days a week.
As for being on call 24/7, life is an adventure. I'm on call 24/7, and when the handful of times I get called with minimal notice happens, I'm excited for the adventure. I'm always sober and ready to go. if something important is coming up for me, I'll give them a few weeks notice. In two years, I've had one scheduling conflict. The winner is always the company. You get a lot of free time in most corporate jobs. Don't waste it. Spend it on your loved ones and make sure they care and understand when you miss something important. Standard life rules for any hardworking professional, if you ask me. It's far easier on my family than the military ever was. I wont complain about having time off but being on call when my friends at the regionals just assume they will be completely gone 6 days a week.
02-22-2014 | 05:16 PM
#20
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From: fins to the left, fins to the right
OP,
Before you jump into the regional world, is there any chance you can do contract flying? I would think you would be able to pick up contacts who might need a fill in here or there. This might get you current again without a full blown regional commitment.
Before you jump into the regional world, is there any chance you can do contract flying? I would think you would be able to pick up contacts who might need a fill in here or there. This might get you current again without a full blown regional commitment.
