Future Cpt Kirk

Yea... unfortunately this continues the string of poor things I've heard about Republic. I don't think I'll be applying for them...

Anyone on here have any thoughts on Endeavor's 20k per year retention program? I've heard poor things about them as well... and Endeavor would require a commute, which I am trying to avoid unless its a no-brainer... But the money is enticing.

prex8390

Yes Air Wisconsin, our contract is up this year and there is lots of speculation going on right now, all that is coming in for news is that "flying will continue past 2015". Just have to relax and trust that someone knows good news we dont know yet and hang tight. Most of what I hear is that theyre gonna announce something by the end of summer.

Randol

Hi Mike, I'm in the same boat, looking at regionals in the northeast. I heard from an Endeavor pilot that new hires will start going to the 200 which means either DTW or MSP, and unless you get the CRJ900 you wouldn't get a NY base. Just something to consider. I agree, the 20K retention helps a lot.

Celeste

Trans States has been good to me so far.

Right now, everyone is getting assigned IAD on the first day of training, and it is a growing base. That may change somewhat when the Denver base opens, but since the bottom ~50-75 people on the bid list are trying to get out of IAD, I would assume that even 9 months from now, the worst case scenario would be getting IAD within a month or two of completing training. As far as upgrade, I think it will be relatively quick, even for people hired later this year. Most of the CQFO's I met in training had a lot of experience, and I don't think they will be sticking around long after they hit that magic 1000 hrs of TPIC.

I don't have any personal experience at any other regionals, but several people in my new hire class at TSA came from mesa, and lots from RAH, and they never seemed to have anything good to say about working at either company. The ones that came from other companies didn't usually have many bad things to say (they were mostly coming to TSA to get PIC time and/or because they live in one Of our bases and were tired Of commuting at their previous airline.)

Celeste

Also, if you are within several months of having 1500 tt, submit an app for trans States on airline apps. They have been interviewing people that do not meet mins yet and offering them a class date when they have the time. There's nothing to lose by interviewing now & no commitment on a tentative offer , and it would be nice to have a class date waiting for you when you hit ATP mins.

Farmlover

Don't listen to the bad comments on Endeavor things are totally different here. The bonus is brining in a new hires and upgrades have started
pm me if you want some info

motormadness

For real. I'd approach that windowless van with caution. It's amazing how guys a few months ago were saying get out and run away. Now it's roses and unicorns. Seems like the guys left standing just want to protect their seats and QOL by offering free candy to any poor sap that is willing to sit reserve indefinitely. I bet all they got inside that van is a tear stained mattress.

NineGturn

It used to be...."What regional would choose me?" Pilots had more time and the pay was better and they could expect to move on to a major after only a few years.

Just putting things in perspective for you.

AboveAndBeyond

That was a long time ago, and it is a different world now. There are hundreds of guys with 7-8 years in the regionals stills sitting in the right seat.

NineGturn

And why is that do you think?

• It's not because hiring has slowed.
• Not because pilots need more time to work at a major.
• Not because its important to have PIC jet experience before you can fly right seat in a 737.
• Not because it's important to spend ten years as a co-pilot at a new airline before you can be a captain even if you've been a captain before.

The reason is because the airlines and unions have morphed commuter airlines into regional monstrosity B-scales to cut labor costs for the mainlines and delay entry for another ten years to prevent large numbers of 30-40 year captains. This is all possible because of the seniority system without which regional airlines wouldn't exist.