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Originally Posted by sherpster
(Post 2455882)
As a junior FO, I truly believe a majority of the FO's dont really care. Heck, furlough me right now for all I care. It would help most of us out in scheduling interviews and job fairs.
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Originally Posted by Ejected
(Post 2456194)
DHL and AMZN only care for realiabity. They negotiate ACMI/CMI rates in advance. If the operating cost go up or down it's not their problem. (The most important variable it's fuel and they pay for it)
As far as they're concern, they like to see new contracts signed for reliability porpuses. They know the pilot shortage it's only gonna get worst, so I'm sure they'll like to see some fair contracts as to avoid massive exodus that could disrrupt their ops. The myth :"the cheaper the pilots, the more business we give you" went out the window when KALITTA signed more airplanes for DHL just after they reached a new contract with their pilots with a significant pay increase. |
Originally Posted by Atrasaty
(Post 2456495)
You may be right but I believe there is far more "operational control" exercised by these entities than we, the governing authority or the shareholders are aware of or will admit. Time will tell as to the extent of their ambitions with regard to certification, obviously DHL as a foreign entity are limited by law but Amazon could front the operation and still serve the combined interests.
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Any businessman knows it’s supply and demand. If you pay, they will come, and they are knocking the doors down at K4. If it wasn’t for pilots being held hostage by seniority position, the companies playing silly games with pay would be long gone.
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Originally Posted by motorclutch
(Post 2455664)
A recent quote to our negotiations committee of relishing the opportunity to furlough pilots is appalling. This guy needs to be carted off in a straight jacket.
kidney stone that will eventually pass. |
Originally Posted by Reactivity
(Post 2456346)
As a similarly junior FO feeding and sheltering a family on no more than my meager income, I most certainly do care. But if his objective is to drive me out the door, he's doing a fine job.
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Originally Posted by sherpster
(Post 2456646)
Dont worry about it...IT IS A BLUFF! Plus you can get a new job within a week....arent we all getting those little postcards in the mail offering us pilot jobs? I know I get 1 a week
Regardless of the future of this company, I have no interest in working at a place where management thinks such tactics are useful, or where anyone thinks the race to the bottom is one they want to win. I have enjoyed working with the professionals at ABX. They take pride in getting the job done and doing it right. I have never seen anybody cut corners or let something slide just to get out on time. Management would do well to realize the value of what they have and stop playing stupid games in an effort to get something for nothing. |
good luck Reactivity ...I'm looking to get out as well...I can't believe the opportunities this company had to growth ABX and did everything to sunk it just out of spite.
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Originally Posted by papacharlie
(Post 2456848)
good luck Reactivity ...I'm looking to get out as well...I can't believe the opportunities this company had to growth ABX and did everything to sunk it just out of spite.
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Originally Posted by Ejected
(Post 2456194)
The myth :"the cheaper the pilots, the more business we give you"
Thats ATSG and ATI in a nutshell, don't forget about that |
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