Seven days of no service and counting for the 21 Air plane, it seems. (Unless I'm missing something.) 11 days on. 7 days off. Oy. Someone at Aeromex ought to have a red face for replacing ABX with these guys.

On the other hand you might pick up some flying from NAC after they landed in the lights at TJSJ. During the daytime. Amazing!

Easier to see them to land on in the daytime!

You kill me! Helps you keep that centerline. Side note: you get what you pay for, ask Hete how much that’s gonna cost him! Great business plan.

Joe Patroni said all it needed was a little speed tape.

Avherald report: https://avherald.com/h?article=4cdbe3c7

That 10-mile visibility and 4-knot wind straight on the nose probably made the landing challenging. (But I shouldn't be snarky; there but for the grace of God goes anybody.)

No YouTube video yet. I wonder before someone releases one. That is if there is one.

This is very downlow. I think there are some ramifications with the feds. Hiring and training comes to mind.

ATSG is going to shut down ABX Air. Change my mind.

It really does present itself that way. That or a merger.

From the whispers, negotiation have been rough again. Rumors of we are giving them the World but its not good enough. It feels like another concessionary contract, but we’ll give you higher rates and maybe a bump in retirement. So people are supposed to get worked to death on non-stop min rest layovers while trying to sleep during the day...and with a small raise. Gtfo!

Even when we were getting planes and work, guys still thought the job was tough. Why make the environment worse for guys looking to come here. Do you want to see more than one guy show up to class? Because it doesn’t only waste the Unions time, but all the managements time too. Having one guy who can teach 10+ in a class now gets to teach one.

Why should the future of ABX rest solely on our shoulders? Understand that current market requires a change.

Maybe if you do first class or best class travel, hotel points, free breakfast, 16%DC, Omni/K4 or better rates with a 75 hr guarantee...then we can talk about gutting all the work rules you want. Hey! We can even throw in that homebasing you want too.


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If Soaper has convinced you that he's willing to do that, he has won.

For a variety of reasons, ATSG is not willing to do that, IMHO.