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boeingdvr 12-10-2018 04:24 PM

Let's go. We need you in class for 1200 bucks a month for 5 months. Then living large at 62 hours an 80 bucks and hour.

We don't break 62 around here. 1/2 day = 1/2 pay. Bring it !

JonnyKnoxville 12-11-2018 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2722871)
Let's go. We need you in class for 1200 bucks a month for 5 months. Then living large at 62 hours an 80 bucks and hour.

We don't break 62 around here. 1/2 day = 1/2 pay. Bring it !

It is 50 hours for guarantee.

First year pay, expect to make: $38,240
Second and Third year pay, expect to make: $59,222
(no raise from 2nd to 3rd year)

Accumulation of flight hours is minimal with 200 hours of flight time on average a year.

FlyPurdue 12-12-2018 05:55 AM

The FB Live Q&A from last week said 777 pilots fly ~80 hours a month.

Is that accurate at all?

thesandbox 12-12-2018 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by FlyPurdue (Post 2723715)
The FB Live Q&A from last week said 777 pilots fly ~80 hours a month.

Is that accurate at all?


Possible since they are out 20 days a month but no upgrades in sight and still crap pay of $80/hr with a whopping pay raise at year 2 to $92 bucks an hour flying a 777 around the globe in circles. You can get $113/hr at Omni to start.

JackStraw 12-12-2018 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by FlyPurdue (Post 2723715)
The FB Live Q&A from last week said 777 pilots fly ~80 hours a month.

Is that accurate at all?

Southern is literally the worst paying job out there. Absolute bottom of the barrel. Unless 4 DUIs are preventing you from going anywhere else I would stay away.

boeingdvr 12-13-2018 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by FlyPurdue (Post 2723715)
The FB Live Q&A from last week said 777 pilots fly ~80 hours a month.

Is that accurate at all?

Yes !! 80 hours. That's less than what you will Credit flying a CRJ-900 @ Mesa Airlines.

We need you to come here- fly a 20 day trip around the world ( 3 times ) flying HAZMAT, making DHL / Atlas Billions, and in return they will give you 80 credit hour at 80 bucks an hour!!!

Class starts Monday. !!

skiddriver 01-10-2019 11:42 AM

Pay and climate
 
So I read tons of neg posts... makes Southern 777 opportunity look pretty concerning.... straight scoop please...

Am I to understand you can get paid less than Min-G (62 hours)? How does that work....

I am at a regional getting maybe 45 -55 Hours a month after losing flights to displacement etc.... I feel like flying a 777 at rates that appear much higher than regional FO pay would be a great opportunity... But reading posts makes it seem like that’s a very wrong thought on my end!

I am military and need more Turbine time to be competitive at what I feel would be my desired career airlines...I would like to get some Cargo experience as I truly believe I would prefer nights and straight trips 15-17 days rather than broken 4 on 2-3 off with passengers.... but again.... everyone seems to be so Neg about this... inputs please; real data...

JonnyKnoxville 01-10-2019 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by skiddriver (Post 2740417)
So I read tons of neg posts... makes Southern 777 opportunity look pretty concerning.... straight scoop please...

Am I to understand you can get paid less than Min-G (62 hours)? How does that work....

I am at a regional getting maybe 45 -55 Hours a month after losing flights to displacement etc.... I feel like flying a 777 at rates that appear much higher than regional FO pay would be a great opportunity... But reading posts makes it seem like that’s a very wrong thought on my end!

I am military and need more Turbine time to be competitive at what I feel would be my desired career airlines...I would like to get some Cargo experience as I truly believe I would prefer nights and straight trips 15-17 days rather than broken 4 on 2-3 off with passengers.... but again.... everyone seems to be so Neg about this... inputs please; real data...

First year guarantee is 50 hours.

The pay rates may look better but the details of the contract absolutely kill the pay. Almost everyone who came from the regionals, myself included, had a significantly better contract at the regionals.

One of many examples:

We do not have bid line protection. So, I could bid a 80 hour line and maybe get awarded it. Once awarded, my schedule changes, as they often do, and I now am scheduled to fly 65 hours. I would only get paid for my new schedule.

The only money you can count on under this CBA is guarantee. 50 hours for first year, 62 hours for every year after. Budgeting for anything more than that will leave you very disappointed.

B777 will build you time. B737 will be the kiss of death. A few short legs where you will build 200-300 hours a year at most.

skiddriver 01-10-2019 12:55 PM

Great info. Thank you....

Still more than I get paid at Regional but I understand your point...

JackStraw 01-10-2019 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by skiddriver (Post 2740417)
So I read tons of neg posts... makes Southern 777 opportunity look pretty concerning.... straight scoop please...

Am I to understand you can get paid less than Min-G (62 hours)? How does that work....

I am at a regional getting maybe 45 -55 Hours a month after losing flights to displacement etc.... I feel like flying a 777 at rates that appear much higher than regional FO pay would be a great opportunity... But reading posts makes it seem like that’s a very wrong thought on my end!

I am military and need more Turbine time to be competitive at what I feel would be my desired career airlines...I would like to get some Cargo experience as I truly believe I would prefer nights and straight trips 15-17 days rather than broken 4 on 2-3 off with passengers.... but again.... everyone seems to be so Neg about this... inputs please; real data...

With military experience you are overqualified for Southern, even if it’s not jet experience. How many DUIs do you have? There’s a 3 DUI minimum to apply.


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