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ABX Air
Any news regarding hiring in ABX, how many classes? expansion plans etc...
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Originally Posted by JET3201972
(Post 2745582)
Any news regarding hiring in ABX, how many classes? expansion plans etc...
Really? Is this a joke? Seriously, you need to read the previous threads to understand the train wreck this company is. |
The most junior captain is a 1994 hire... haven’t had an upgrade class in 2 years... zero growth... over half of the pilots are on reserve.
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There are much better places to work. Like every where.
No growth plans No upgrades Management that consistantly violates the contract Management that is trying to take every meaningful work rule away Management that has stalled for 4 years in contract negotiations A chief pilot who denies every single grievance Reserve life that has virtually no rules Pilots with 20+ years leaving Almost everyone hired in past 3 years with apps out everywhere. Answer your question? |
Hey Soapy this is on you and your dynamic management team.
1. Your entire scheduling department left for Atlas. 2. Your attrition rate is beyond industry norms. 3. You lost another Arbitration which will effect ATSG because of your arrogance. Get a clue dude. |
Originally Posted by motorclutch
(Post 2746219)
Hey Soapy this is on you and your dynamic management team.
... 3. You lost another Arbitration which will effect ATSG because of your arrogance. Get a clue dude. |
A bud of mine from ATI who was effected told me about it. More to come.
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Originally Posted by motorclutch
(Post 2746583)
A bud of mine from ATI who was effected told me about it. More to come.
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Call me, you have my number
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Originally Posted by motorclutch
(Post 2748023)
Call me, you have my number
Grievances at an all time high and no negotiations planned. Any management telling potential new hires there will be a contract "soon" is a flat out lie. They have been telling new hires that for almost 3 years! |
Originally Posted by ACMItrash
(Post 2773682)
Still no upgrades in well over a year!
Grievances at an all time high and no negotiations planned. Any management telling potential new hires there will be a contract "soon" is a flat out lie. They have been telling new hires that for almost 3 years! They have been talking about upgrades like it should have been done after the first of the year! At this point even if we can rebound from getting a contract, the damage that they are doing keeps getting worse. Its getting exhausting trying to tell friends and family what I do. They ask, “ what is an ABX?” I just tell them I haul trash. I’m sure even local garbage men get more respect than us. People thinking about coming here, the only reason we get things that most other places get is due to OSHA and health code violations. The government has to almost force things. Also...hope you like sitting next to the crapper when getting airlined. Yep...its probably done on purpose. If they had a seat you could buy on the toilet...they would do it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
February performance numbers are in. Once again ABX Air crews did an excellent job with 98.62% on time for DHL and 98.81% on time for Amazon. No delays were caused by flight crews. Here's to hoping our efforts will be recognized by our management and customers. I'm proud to be part of this team.
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There is no team!!! Just a plantation.
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Originally Posted by dogo
(Post 2777955)
There is no team!!! Just a plantation.
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You must be a new hire.
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Originally Posted by dogo
(Post 2777976)
You must be a new hire.
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Lol good. Ok now I gotcha. I hear he has stopped talking to classes.
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Originally Posted by dogo
(Post 2778068)
Lol good. Ok now I gotcha. I hear he has stopped talking to classes.
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Originally Posted by ACMItrash
(Post 2784047)
He stopped talking because everytime he opened his mouth 5 more pilots quit! His constant drival of needing to be the cheapest in the industry so he gets his bonus was getting old!
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Originally Posted by forrealyall
(Post 2784070)
According to the story I heard, the FAA told him to knock it off because he was disrupting the learning environment.
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Originally Posted by ACMItrash
(Post 2773682)
Still no upgrades in well over a year!
Grievances at an all time high and no negotiations planned. Any management telling potential new hires there will be a contract "soon" is a flat out lie. They have been telling new hires that for almost 3 years! |
Originally Posted by ACMItrash
(Post 2799893)
Wow 2 upgrades announced 2...100 more Fos to go with no airplanes scheduled for delivery!
I think they need to be upgrading more than just 2 a month from now until August. Captains cycle through the FIFO twice as hard as FOs. The Company is so behind the curve, we are hiring for attrition that happened months ago. Can’t wait to see the grand plan for ILN. We need to upgrade like 4-6 a month and run a class of 10 FOs from now until the end of the year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by point432
(Post 2800051)
I think they need to be upgrading more than just 2 a month from now until August. Captains cycle through the FIFO twice as hard as FOs. The Company is so behind the curve, we are hiring for attrition that happened months ago. Can’t wait to see the grand plan for ILN. We need to upgrade like 4-6 a month and run a class of 10 FOs from now until the end of the year.
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Bold prediction. ABX lied to 5 more suspecting potential new hires telling them ABX will have a contract "soon"
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The good news is that this could be a good diet for some. I came in to do a JFK turn. 04:45 showtime. Hotel restaurant is closed. Cafeteria is closed. No catering on the airplane, and you’re working till 12:20.
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Originally Posted by flyfranz
(Post 2822182)
The good news is that this could be a good diet for some. I came in to do a JFK turn. 04:45 showtime. Hotel restaurant is closed. Cafeteria is closed. No catering on the airplane, and you’re working till 12:20.
And no NDO either, right? But wait, why didn’t you just use the vending machines? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by flyfranz
(Post 2822182)
The good news is that this could be a good diet for some. I came in to do a JFK turn. 04:45 showtime. Hotel restaurant is closed. Cafeteria is closed. No catering on the airplane, and you’re working till 12:20.
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I try to eat healthy. There ain’t much of that in the vending machine. I usually have protein bars in my bag. This never happens when u have bars in your bag
I’m ok without catering when there are options. At 4:45 am with the cafeteria closed, it sucked. . I don’t need home basing. I’d prefer the added $17,000 in my 401K |
Could this be ABX new hire list for seeking new hires?
Come to ABX there is 50% chance you will have a better job in less than 3 years! There is a 70% chance you might get a 767 type! Why go to a regional for a $40,000 signing bonus when that's what you will make here your first year! 12 hours of ready reserve in CVG is what you need this summer! Jr Manning is picking back up, your home life will suffer but you will get to see the world in the middle of the night working 20 days in a row! You get to work for some of the highest paid management in the world who took deep concessions from the pilots and never gave it back! You get to work for a guy who loves to threaten your career everyday! What a swell place. |
I just landed in LA. 317 is down for maintenance. I guess it’s been having mechanical issues for over a week. Now they’ve found what sounds like corrosion in the belly. We don’t have a backup aircraft to cover the run. It’s only a matter of time before we lose the Aeromex contract.
This place is shrinking while everyone else is expanding. This is not where you want to come/stay. |
They can cover it...if they want to. There are spare -200 tails (of course, it impacts payload) if needed. Aeromex doesn't really pay well contractually speaking, so they don't pony for a spare a/c. They have a willingness ($ speaking) to accept mechanical delay or cancellation vs a dedicated spare.
ABX will fix it; they always do..even with some delay. Press on with that 98% luv and no new agreement :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by flyfranz
(Post 2827588)
I just landed in LA. 317 is down for maintenance. I guess it’s been having mechanical issues for over a week. Now they’ve found what sounds like corrosion in the belly. We don’t have a backup aircraft to cover the run. It’s only a matter of time before we lose the Aeromex contract.
This place is shrinking while everyone else is expanding. This is not where you want to come/stay. Shoot go out and celebrate your 3rd year anniversary as you tell others they shouldn’t stay. |
Originally Posted by flyfranz
(Post 2827588)
I just landed in LA. 317 is down for maintenance. I guess it’s been having mechanical issues for over a week. Now they’ve found what sounds like corrosion in the belly. We don’t have a backup aircraft to cover the run.
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Originally Posted by wjcandee
(Post 2827888)
Aren't they going to use 740 to cover it? (Obviously, 740 is not a -300.)
Even left a few minutes earlier than usual. So much for getting to enjoy LA... |
Originally Posted by Makinitup
(Post 2827704)
Yep ABX is the only airline that has mechanical and corrosion issues on their aircraft. As another poster says Aeromex doesn’t pay for a standby aircraft so enjoy the longer layover.
Shoot go out and celebrate your 3rd year anniversary as you tell others they shouldn’t stay. I should have known when I got hired here, and they refused to put us in CASS, that coming here was a mistake. ATI next door in training had CASS. My first email from the CP was after I’d been on the road for over a month straight. I thought it was an atta boy for helping out. Nope! I had filled out an engine monitoring page wrong. The beatings will continue till morale improves. Thanks for helping us out Franz... Don’t even get me started on HR. Seriously though. Why should anyone stay or come here? |
Originally Posted by flyfranz
(Post 2828546)
I’m looking for employment just like everyone else should be. But maybe you can tell me why I shouldn’t tell everyone to leave? This place is toxic. Management hates the pilots. The union hates management. In 30 years I’ve never worked for a company like this. And I worked in Africa!
I should have known when I got hired here, and they refused to put us in CASS, that coming here was a mistake. ATI next door in training had CASS. My first email from the CP was after I’d been on the road for over a month straight. I thought it was an atta boy for helping out. Nope! I had filled out an engine monitoring page wrong. The beatings will continue till morale improves. Thanks for helping us out Franz... Don’t even get me started on HR. Seriously though. Why should anyone stay or come here? Funny how the biggest day to day worry could be filling out paperwork. Not crashing into a mountain or flying tired...paperwork. You need to make sure Delta has all the info they need. Problem would be solved if they had someone to audit non-punitively. Why? Its easier to blame the tired person than accept the flaws of being human. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by flyfranz
(Post 2828546)
I’m looking for employment just like everyone else should be. But maybe you can tell me why I shouldn’t tell everyone to leave? This place is toxic. Management hates the pilots. The union hates management. In 30 years I’ve never worked for a company like this. And I worked in Africa!
I should have known when I got hired here, and they refused to put us in CASS, that coming here was a mistake. ATI next door in training had CASS. My first email from the CP was after I’d been on the road for over a month straight. I thought it was an atta boy for helping out. Nope! I had filled out an engine monitoring page wrong. The beatings will continue till morale improves. Thanks for helping us out Franz... Don’t even get me started on HR. Seriously though. Why should anyone stay or come here? |
Originally Posted by point432
(Post 2828565)
Funny how the biggest day to day worry could be filling out paperwork. Not crashing into a mountain or flying tired...paperwork. You need to make sure Delta has all the info they need. Problem would be solved if they had someone to audit non-punitively. Why? Its easier to blame the tired person than accept the flaws of being human.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My second conversation with the CP was about a month or two after. He demanded an apology for the tone of voice in an email. That was a new one for me. I didn’t know emails had a voice. It didn’t when it left my computer so someone in the office must have added it. The 3rd conversation they demanded to know why I went to the doctor on my days off. I can keep going. Especially about the HR department here. |
Originally Posted by flyfranz
(Post 2828628)
I was probably fatigued and that’s why the sheet was filled out incorrectly.
My second conversation with the CP was about a month or two after. He demanded an apology for the tone of voice in an email. That was a new one for me. I didn’t know emails had a voice. It didn’t when it left my computer so someone in the office must have added it. The 3rd conversation they demanded to know why I went to the doctor on my days off. I can keep going. Especially about the HR department here. Thats the problem with email and texting, it has no voice. Sometimes it’s just better to call. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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