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CatsBy90 05-01-2019 08:15 PM

Info on National Airlines
 
Does anyone know anything about National Airlines? I think they have a few 747’s and 757’s but I haven’t been able to find too much information about them. I know a guy there and he seems to like it but I’d like to get a different perspective before putting an app in.

I’m currently a FO at a regional, a couple months from being eligible to upgrade and honestly I’m pretty happy here.. Just trying to plan my next move in regards to upgrading or going somewhere else to get some heavy international time.

goinaround 05-01-2019 08:17 PM

They'll probably hire you. But without any TPIC...you'll be stuck. And that's not a place where you want to be stuck.... Stay and take your upgrade is my advice.

Prettywhacked1 05-03-2019 05:49 AM

I was in the first generation there......agreed, wouldn’t go unless you have zero prospects, then still wouldn’t recommend it........not a good place......

boeingdvr 05-03-2019 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by CatsBy90 (Post 2812629)
Does anyone know anything about National Airlines? I think they have a few 747’s and 757’s but I haven’t been able to find too much information about them. I know a guy there and he seems to like it but I’d like to get a different perspective before putting an app in.

I’m currently a FO at a regional, a couple months from being eligible to upgrade and honestly I’m pretty happy here.. Just trying to plan my next move in regards to upgrading or going somewhere else to get some heavy international time.

Ok- not a personal attack, but you’re better than National Airlines. Every airline on the planet needs a warm body. Don’t sell your self short !!

Heavy Intl time- is just that. Delta is pulling gays and gals wet behind the ears at regionals. No need for “heavy intl” time anymore

Saafer 05-03-2019 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2813576)
Ok- not a personal attack, but you’re better than National Airlines. Every airline on the planet needs a warm body. Don’t sell your self short !!

Heavy Intl time- is just that. Delta is pulling gays and gals wet behind the ears at regionals. No need for “heavy intl” time anymore

I am sure that you meant to say, that Delta is pulling GUYS .... :-)

boeingdvr 05-03-2019 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Saafer (Post 2813578)
I am sure that you meant to say, that Delta is pulling GUYS .... :-)

Haha. Yeah- that too 🙃

JohnBurke 05-03-2019 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by CatsBy90 (Post 2812629)
Does anyone know anything about National Airlines? I think they have a few 747’s and 757’s but I haven’t been able to find too much information about them. I know a guy there and he seems to like it but I’d like to get a different perspective before putting an app in.

I’m currently a FO at a regional, a couple months from being eligible to upgrade and honestly I’m pretty happy here.. Just trying to plan my next move in regards to upgrading or going somewhere else to get some heavy international time.

You "know a guy" who works there, and what you know about the company is that "they have a few 747's and 757's?" You're considering applying there?

Used to be that one did his homework, first.

Of course, if you know a guy...

CatsBy90 05-14-2019 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2813716)
You "know a guy" who works there, and what you know about the company is that "they have a few 747's and 757's?" You're considering applying there?

Used to be that one did his homework, first.

Of course, if you know a guy...

Yes, John, hence the title of the post “info on National Airlines”.

JohnBurke 05-14-2019 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by CatsBy90 (Post 2820344)
Yes, John, hence the title of the post “info on National Airlines”.

No ****?

If you "know a guy," and all you got is that you *think* the company has "a few 747's and 757's," then either you didn't ask, or you don't know a guy very well.

Asking a question on an internet board isn't really in depth research; someone seeking to apply might have done a bit more leg work than to "know a guy" and for the sum total of his knowledge at this point to be that you *think* the company has "a few 747's and 757's." Truly underwhelming.

Have you read the NTSB report regarding the Bagram crash? Maybe you should.

123494 05-15-2019 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by CatsBy90 (Post 2812629)
Does anyone know anything about National Airlines? I think they have a few 747’s and 757’s but I haven’t been able to find too much information about them. I know a guy there and he seems to like it but I’d like to get a different perspective before putting an app in.

I’m currently a FO at a regional, a couple months from being eligible to upgrade and honestly I’m pretty happy here.. Just trying to plan my next move in regards to upgrading or going somewhere else to get some heavy international time.

Stay at your regional and upgrade. You will make more money and your QOL will be much better than at National.

Bluesville 05-15-2019 08:45 AM

Go to Atlas. They’ll take ya

Varsity 05-19-2019 11:41 AM

Looks like national is taking passenger A330s?

Neverassume 05-20-2019 12:03 PM

They won’t upgrade you there, my understanding is all their captains come off the street

Hawkerdriver1 05-03-2021 12:04 PM

National Airlines : Recent interviews PM me.
 
Any help appreciated.

Thx.

HD

av8tordude 05-05-2021 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3229930)
Any help appreciated.

Thx.

HD


Just did my interview. Very relaxed interview. No technical or HR question. 2 Pilots & 1 HR. The interviewer did most of the talking. Discuss fleet plans, company, schedules, benefits, etc. Question ask to me...Walk me through your resume from beginning to end. Any questions regarding the schedule? Any other questions?

txflyer 05-06-2021 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Neverassume (Post 2823429)
They won’t upgrade you there, my understanding is all their captains come off the street

That's not correct. We do upgrade.

Hawkerdriver1 05-07-2021 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by av8tordude (Post 3231162)
Just did my interview. Very relaxed interview. No technical or HR question. 2 Pilots & 1 HR. The interviewer did most of the talking. Discuss fleet plans, company, schedules, benefits, etc. Question ask to me...Walk me through your resume from beginning to end. Any questions regarding the schedule? Any other questions?

Thank you. You were spot on. I had my interview May 6th. I got hired.

HD

C17B74 05-07-2021 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3232166)
Thank you. You were spot on. I had my interview May 6th. I got hired.

HD

Congrats! Just curious based on APC info? 56 Pilots, 2 x 74 BCFs, 2 x 75s - A330s in negotiations, any update within these numbers and someone mentioned during their interview earlier that the company briefed fleet plans which correlates to future growth/endeavors? Just curious as it shouldn’t be too confidential if briefed during an interview.

Hawkerdriver1 05-09-2021 03:40 AM


Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 3232346)
Congrats! Just curious based on APC info? 56 Pilots, 2 x 74 BCFs, 2 x 75s - A330s in negotiations, any update within these numbers and someone mentioned during their interview earlier that the company briefed fleet plans which correlates to future growth/endeavors? Just curious as it shouldn’t be too confidential if briefed during an interview.

Thank you. Not sure of pilot count. 5 X747BCF, 1 X A330, 1 X 757.

HD

Hawkerdriver1 05-10-2021 02:40 AM

Question
 
Some companies, like Hawaian, amoung others, adjusted their facial hair policies after a study came out proving there was no loss in oxygen saturation provided certain cinditions were met. Did National, or any other cargo carrier follow suit?

Thanks,

HD

Riverside 05-10-2021 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3232915)
Some companies, like Hawaian, amoung others, adjusted their facial hair policies after a study came out proving there was no loss in oxygen saturation provided certain cinditions were met. Did National, or any other cargo carrier follow suit?

Thanks,

HD

Yes, Ups did

Hawkerdriver1 05-10-2021 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 3232954)
Yes, Ups did


Thanks!

HD

Bluesville 05-13-2021 11:48 AM

National has upgraded FOs in the past and they are starting to Upgrade once again. A handful of FOs are in the process right now.

AD1101 05-13-2021 03:24 PM

Class date
 

Originally Posted by av8tordude (Post 3231162)
Just did my interview. Very relaxed interview. No technical or HR question. 2 Pilots & 1 HR. The interviewer did most of the talking. Discuss fleet plans, company, schedules, benefits, etc. Question ask to me...Walk me through your resume from beginning to end. Any questions regarding the schedule? Any other questions?

Hello, I am wondering if you have heard back from the HR lady... I interviewed in April...No feedback yet.
Thanks

AD1101 05-13-2021 03:26 PM

Class date
 

Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3232166)
Thank you. You were spot on. I had my interview May 6th. I got hired.

HD

Congrats... When is your class date?

Hawkerdriver1 05-20-2021 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by AD1101 (Post 3234562)
Congrats... When is your class date?

Thanks. Class started May 18th. 10 in class.



HD

WhaleJock 05-20-2021 02:29 PM

National
 

Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1 (Post 2813463)
I was in the first generation there......agreed, wouldn’t go unless you have zero prospects, then still wouldn’t recommend it........not a good place......

I’m gonna have to agree with your assessments, a buddy of mine works for them and is about to leave for corporate flying They regularly schedule 4 or more crew for up to 30 hrs duty at a time to save paying layovers, per dimes,etc. Thier training department is a joke. Do yourself a favor, hang on till at least a half descent opportunity avails itself.

Hawkerdriver1 05-20-2021 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by WhaleJock (Post 3237942)
I’m gonna have to agree with your assessments, a buddy of mine works for them and is about to leave for corporate flying They regularly schedule 4 or more crew for up to 30 hrs duty at a time to save paying layovers, per dimes,etc. Thier training department is a joke. Do yourself a favor, hang on till at least a half descent opportunity avails itself.

Flying was never about the $$$$ for me. If I had wanted to make money, real money, I would have chosen a different career. Real estate, finance, etc....

Corporate flying is not all it’s cracked up to be either. Some owners are temperamental, cheap & controlling while others are OK. I’m approaching the twilight of a 40 year career fulfilling a childhood dream to fly 747’s all over the world, make some new friends & have some fun along the way.


HD

6Badger9 05-20-2021 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3238093)
Flying was never about the $$$$ for me. If I had wanted to make money, real money, I would have chosen a different career. Real estate, finance, etc....

Corporate flying is not all it’s cracked up to be either. Some owners are temperamental, cheap & controlling while others are OK. I’m approaching the twilight of a 40 year career fulfilling a childhood dream to fly 747’s all over the world, make some new friends & have some fun along the way.


HD


Do 3 laps around the planet on a 20 day rotation with minimal rest… and then come back and tell us what you think. This is why places can get by with paying bottom dollar for pilots…

Hawkerdriver1 05-21-2021 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by 6Badger9 (Post 3238103)
Do 3 laps around the planet on a 20 day rotation with minimal rest… and then come back and tell us what you think. This is why places can get by with paying bottom dollar for pilots…

I’ll let you know. 👍

Swakid8 05-21-2021 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3238093)
Flying was never about the $$$$ for me. If I had wanted to make money, real money, I would have chosen a different career. Real estate, finance, etc....

Corporate flying is not all it’s cracked up to be either. Some owners are temperamental, cheap & controlling while others are OK. I’m approaching the twilight of a 40 year career fulfilling a childhood dream to fly 747’s all over the world, make some new friends & have some fun along the way.


HD

Theres Atlas or better yet Kalitta if you want to fly the 747.

Hawkerdriver1 05-25-2021 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3238480)
Theres Atlas or better yet Kalitta if you want to fly the 747.

Thanks. Though my record is spotless, I was in an accident. (SIC & non-flying pilot.) It was still enough to disqualify me from consideration. I can’t say I blame them. Lots of applicants to choose from.

Im counting my blessing. I’m having fun in indoc & working with some good guys with varied backgrounds: A380’s, A340’’s, A320’s, 747’s, 737’s & several RJ models. Simulator training starts end of next week.

HD

Anderson 05-25-2021 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3240494)
Thanks. Though my record is spotless, I was in an accident. (SIC & non-flying pilot.) It was still enough to disqualify me from consideration. I can’t say I blame them. Lots of applicants to choose from.

Im counting my blessing. Having fun in indoc. Working with some good guys with varied backgrounds from A380’s, A340’’s, A320’s, 747’s, & 737-800’s. Simulator training starts end of next week.

HD


Doesn’t sound like your record is spotless if you were in an accident.


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RyeMex 05-25-2021 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Anderson (Post 3240501)
Doesn’t sound like your record is spotless if you were in an accident.


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What ever happened to the idea that, "There, but for the grace of God, go I"?

Jesus, man.. May all your flights end well.

Anderson 05-25-2021 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3240502)
What ever happened to the idea that, "There, but for the grace of God, go I"?

Jesus, man.. May all your flights end well.


Just making an objective observation about the contradicting statements. Not judging.


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Jimmy McFlap 05-25-2021 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 (Post 3240494)
Thanks. Though my record is spotless, I was in an accident. (SIC & non-flying pilot.) It was still enough to disqualify me from consideration. I can’t say I blame them. Lots of applicants to choose from.

Im counting my blessing. I’m having fun in indoc & working with some good guys with varied backgrounds: A380’s, A340’’s, A320’s, 747’s, 737’s & several RJ models. Simulator training starts end of next week.

HD

380s and 340s? Were they at Emirates?

Hawkerdriver1 05-26-2021 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jimmy McFlap (Post 3240534)
380s and 340s? Were they at Emirates?


Yes.


HD

wjcandee 05-26-2021 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Anderson (Post 3240505)
Just making an objective observation about the contradicting statements. Not judging.

Most people wouldn't feel the need to state that observation back to the other person in public -- their prefrontal cortex would filter it -- unless they were being judgy.

Moreover, that kind of statement is really being made for the benefit of the group, as if we were a bunch of guys standing around talking and you were heckling or mocking the guy in conversation, so, again, it really does come across as judgy. There's no other purpose of saying it. You wouldn't send it in a p.m. to the person out of the blue. So you're saying it to degrade him or mock him or just preen for the group at his expense.

Just making an objective observation.

Anderson 05-26-2021 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 3240915)
Most people wouldn't feel the need to state that observation back to the other person in public -- their prefrontal cortex would filter it -- unless they were being judgy.

Moreover, that kind of statement is really being made for the benefit of the group, as if we were a bunch of guys standing around talking and you were heckling or mocking the guy in conversation, so, again, it really does come across as judgy. There's no other purpose of saying it. You wouldn't send it in a p.m. to the person out of the blue. So you're saying it to degrade him or mock him or just preen for the group at his expense.

Just making an objective observation.


Well allow me to retort.

Actually I can’t. That was such a well thought out statement. So sharp. Your intellect is dizzying. Well done.


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Swakid8 05-26-2021 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Anderson (Post 3241139)
Well allow me to retort.

Actually I can’t. That was such a well thought out statement. So sharp. Your intellect is dizzying. Well done.


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Well done lol


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