UPS FE to FO
 

Hey what exactly happens once hired with UPS? Does everyone start out as a FE? If so, how long is upgrade to FO? Sorry, I don't know anything about the cargo side of the industry...

UPS is only hiring FOs...we have enough FEs

too many actually

All of the '88ers will start getting 5 weeks of vacation next year though. That's effectively 3 months off.

What's an '88er? Do you mean a FE on the Dc-8?
I am just curious how many FE's UPS has and how many of them are 60+? If there are any under 60 guys, is there anything the company can do to get them to upgrade?
Thanks.

I believe he is referring to those older fellas that were hired when the airline started in 1988. I believe that there will soon if not already, be no fe's under 60. This is due to the 72 going away and soon to be the 74 classic going away. And if there are any under 60 guys left on the panel, they will soon be displaced by more senior ropes(over 60 guys).

The "standard" vacation for years was 4 weeks after 10 years of service and 5 weeks after 15 years. Where the h*ll did the IPA come up with 19 years? What losers the NC was. This is what happens when you "buy" votes. (40K) for one year of service.

Not so Fast
 

4 weeks of vac after 12 years of service.

TH1

vacation
 

Nash..

What we got was an improvement over what we had...if you don't like it, please volunteer your services to the union to help right this egregious wrong. I, for one, don't think you'll want to get off your soapbox to help out one bit. It's easier to sit in the peanut gallery and b*tch and moan rather than doing anything constructive.

JMO

Pilot7576

That is a cop out. Sure it was an improvement, but was it of enough magnitude? I guess so for a group like ours. He's right, the company knew exactly where to put the improvements to get their 51%, and by the end our union leaders had their tails so far between their legs from their own problems they went with the 51% concept just to get something passed.

I volunteered for a seat on the negotiating committee and didn't get it due to EB politics. Does that mean that I can now ***** <G>?