Ups Pilot Contract
 

Hearing That The Company Has A 1.3 Bil/8 Year Proposal On The Table. Does Anyone Else Have Any Info?

I have heard that ballpark figure as well. I guess that converts to roughly a 30% pay raise? That'd be a nice figure to see. Hopefully newhire pay could crack 3k/month!

8 years?, Thats a DOA from me. 8 years actually means 10-12 if our current contract is anything to reference... The pay numbers I can think about, but we need to be realistic about the length.

To my Brown Brothers: Remember, there are many facets to a contract besides hourly rates. High hourly rates can be washed out by poor work rules. Look at the whole package. Good Luck! We are right there, too!

Regards,
Clutch

Ups Would Never Violate Work Rules, Would They?

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Well, I would have to look at the whole agreement first, not throwing out a "No" just because of a long contract.

What if we got top industry rates, 3% raise per year for 8 years, our B scale gets the axe, our retirement leads the industry, our scope is ironclad, and scheduling vastly improved? That kind of contract would be voted in by 80%.

There in lies the problem, unfortunately, you're willing to settle for all that you posted and a lousey 3% inc that doesnt even cover cost of living increases. Now, if you made that a 5% inc with everything else you said, I would consider it.

You know as well as I do that an 8 year contract will actually equal 10-12 years and of course as soon as we start neg again, our union dues will go up and then where will your 3% be???

I hear guys talking about how they would be happy with $240 an hour for a 12 year Capt and I think these guys must be nuts! $240 an hour for the 747-400 or A380, talk about being generous. Hell, FedEx is already making $240 an hour and this is what we want to shoot for as an industry leading contract? I sincerly hope that FedEx settles their contract first so that we have a more realistic number for some of the pilots in our membership to see...

BBDC8

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Where Did You Get The 240/hr At Fedex Right Now? I Thought It Was 206/hr.