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Sluggo_63 04-13-2020 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by flugenmachen (Post 3031025)
It wasn't all that long ago that expressions such as "extremely predatory" were being used to describe Wal-Mart and it's impact on main street America. Now they are being touted as the alternative that will SAVE those same small businesses from Amazon. Not disagreeing with you, just remembering all the protests and campaigns under the banner "NO WAL-MART IN OUR TOWN!!".

I absolutely agree with you. It all comes down to degrees of badness. My first go-to is always a local, Mom-and-Pop store if at all possible, then local big boxes. If I have to order something online, Amazon would be my last option. Wal-Mart is bad, but it's not even close to Amazon bad.

I wish whoever made "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" would update their film based on today's Amazon workplace. Wal-Mart would look like saints in comparison.

BlueMoon 04-13-2020 11:13 AM

Needed a new weed whacker and a deadbolt for a door. I didn't want to go to the store since we have a stay at home order. Home Depot Express delivery was an additional 9 dollars on my order and it was at my door before 9am when I ordered the afternoon prior. Better than Amazon in my opinion.

Even the local ACE is offering 15 bucks for next day delivery and free curbside pickup (they didn't have the trimmer model I wanted).

iPilot 04-13-2020 03:09 PM

I suppose nobody minds that UPS and FedEx have a complete duopoly in the US airmail business? I guess as long as they pay really well pilots don’t mind. However if someone could step in and offer the same service for less than 1/2 price let’s see who’s going to be demanding Amazon get broken up. Except maybe UPS and FedEx employees.

Amazon, like Walmart will be judged for antitrust based on consumer harm. If they come in with a better mouse trap and can offer savings to their consumers it will never pass muster in the courts.

tengssuuciurta 04-13-2020 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by iPilot (Post 3031506)
I suppose nobody minds that UPS and FedEx have a complete duopoly in the US airmail business? I guess as long as they pay really well pilots don’t mind. However if someone could step in and offer the same service for less than 1/2 price let’s see who’s going to be demanding Amazon get broken up. Except maybe UPS and FedEx employees.

Amazon, like Walmart will be judged for antitrust based on consumer harm. If they come in with a better mouse trap and can offer savings to their consumers it will never pass muster in the courts.

I can't help but read your posts in Strong Bad's voice :D

iPilot 04-13-2020 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by tengssuuciurta (Post 3031515)
I can't help but read your posts in Strong Bad's voice :D

Just glad someone still gets the reference.

CaptainYoda 04-13-2020 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 3026689)
The WSJ article said it needed the resources to ship its own customers orders.

Translation:
Delivering to customers now, in crisis, making massive amounts of new, long term, customers takes priority over thin margin delivery.

Once the Covid crisis subsides, they will return to the delivery front with more capital and likely an improved strategy.

727CA 04-13-2020 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 3031313)
I absolutely agree with you. It all comes down to degrees of badness. My first go-to is always a local, Mom-and-Pop store if at all possible, then local big boxes. If I have to order something online, Amazon would be my last option. Wal-Mart is bad, but it's not even close to Amazon bad.

Ace is my absolute last choice. It's way overpriced for no reason, and has half the selection. Why pay more for the same item because it's mom and pop. If I'm working on a project that requires wood and paint, Im going to HD or Lowes. If I'm wanting something special, I search all three, and 100% of the time, Amazon is the cheapest, it's delivered to my door, and since I haul Amazon freight, it's a no brainer. WalMart isn't even in the equation.

mrvmo 04-14-2020 12:20 PM

Maybe they are setting up to buy USPS!

BlazingSaddles 04-14-2020 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by iPilot (Post 3031506)
. If they come in with a better mouse trap and can offer savings to their consumers it will never pass muster in the courts.

Except (supposedly anyway) the courts look not just at if they can offer savings but what it does to for the consumer in regards to overall competition within that market. Take the sprint/TMobile merger. That’s been fought for years over claims it would reduce competition within that market. If amazon shows a history of entering a market and running others in that market out of business then yeah they might face push back (then again when you’re the richest man alive......). I’m also not sure how keen the government would be (assuming the politicians aren’t bought and paid for 🤣🤣🤣. I know. Hard to say with a straight face) to have one company controlling massive sections of multiple industries. I believe Bezos has said before that he expects at some point the government to break amazon up.

flugenmachen 04-14-2020 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 (Post 3031313)
I absolutely agree with you. It all comes down to degrees of badness. My first go-to is always a local, Mom-and-Pop store if at all possible, then local big boxes. If I have to order something online, Amazon would be my last option. Wal-Mart is bad, but it's not even close to Amazon bad.

I wish whoever made "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" would update their film based on today's Amazon workplace. Wal-Mart would look like saints in comparison.

Case in point..... https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-fir...se-conditions/


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