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05-31-2007 | 11:29 AM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
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05-31-2007 | 12:27 PM
#14
Organizational Learning
Joined: Nov 2005
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It's a super-secret process that can only occur in dark back room, preferably smoke-filled.
OR, you can log on to the ALPA website with your Member Number and Password, and go to the ALPA FedEx MEC Info Center page. From there, you can select a hyperlink for the ALPA Constitution -- it's available in MS Word format and PDF format. Here are some links to save a few clicks:
ALPA Constitution & By-Laws [MS Word format]
ALPA Constitution & By-Laws [Adobe Acrobat Reader (.pdf) format]
Some folks have mistakenly assumed that Article XVI - RECALL OF OFFICERS applies, and have begun collecting signatures for a petition. A peek at Article I - GENERAL, Section 7 - OFFICERS AND OATH OF OFFICE, Paragraph 1, reveals that the OFFICERS referred to in Art. XVI are the President of the Association, the First Vice President, the Vice President-Administration/Secretary, and the Vice President-Finance/Treasurer. Notice the absence of MEC Chairman from that list.
OR, you can log on to the ALPA website with your Member Number and Password, and go to the ALPA FedEx MEC Info Center page. From there, you can select a hyperlink for the ALPA Constitution -- it's available in MS Word format and PDF format. Here are some links to save a few clicks:
ALPA Constitution & By-Laws [MS Word format]
ALPA Constitution & By-Laws [Adobe Acrobat Reader (.pdf) format]
Some folks have mistakenly assumed that Article XVI - RECALL OF OFFICERS applies, and have begun collecting signatures for a petition. A peek at Article I - GENERAL, Section 7 - OFFICERS AND OATH OF OFFICE, Paragraph 1, reveals that the OFFICERS referred to in Art. XVI are the President of the Association, the First Vice President, the Vice President-Administration/Secretary, and the Vice President-Finance/Treasurer. Notice the absence of MEC Chairman from that list.
Article IV - MASTER EXECUTIVE COUNCIL, is where one looks to find the procedure to recall an MEC Chairman. Section 13 - RECALL is on page 45 of the C & B-L, so you can go look it up there. One last hint, and I'll leave the rest of the reading to you. When it says, "two-thirds vote of the Master Executive Council," it's referring to LEC Status Reps -- what we call "Block Reps."
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Last edited by TonyC; 05-31-2007 at 01:09 PM. Reason: correct formatting
05-31-2007 | 01:03 PM
#15
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05-31-2007 | 02:26 PM
#17
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NF,
Tony is correct in the recall petition won't work for the MEC chairman. However, the organizer of the petition is gathering the names and wants to approach the MEC with a huge list and potentially ask for a voluntarily resignation. It will also be a list of folks to pursue recalling the current block reps or at least supporting future candidates who will promise to be more responsive to their own block's wishes.
Again--I am not anti-ALPA. I just think some of the MEC has gotten too isolated from the folks they represent. One way or another--there need to be some changes. Some new faces would go a long way towards restoring some trust.
FDX28 has pretty much spearheaded the effort. The plan is once a decent number of names are collected then the MEC will be approached. If a reasonable number isn't garnered, the list will be disposed of. Nobody is going to get hung out individually. There are plenty of us who have spoken openly about the changes we'd like to see.
As for signs--I'd have to defer to FDX28 and the other guys on the point. I think its a good idea. Anyone wanted to publicize the email should feel free to do so. Remember...Union starts with U. Let folks know you want some changes.
So..why I am a lazy slug and not doing it for you? I just got off the phone with Mary Sellers trying to get back on status after my back surgery earlier this month, and she informed me that I need a letter from the doc saying "No restrictions". While I think it might be reasonable for me to go back at week 4 without any issues, I am not sure if the doc will sign will sign a letter saying "cleared hot" with NO restrictions until 1 Jul. So...I know it sounds wierd....but I WANT to get to work but right now I have to go (*&%* pay only until July.
For those that don't know--when you get surgery you automatically go NOQ. That means you can't move an R day or make any changes to your calendar at all. I wanted to move some R days from the first of the month (where they'll have to be sicked) to the latter part (where I might be able to fly). So--you end up sort of stuck locked out of VIPS and unable to do squat. Time off is nice...but no F-15s since January, and no 727 flying since ealry May...I'm about ready to do some flying again. While I fly for a living, not for fun, I do think I'm pretty lucky to have a job I actually miss when I'm away from it for a while.
Tony is correct in the recall petition won't work for the MEC chairman. However, the organizer of the petition is gathering the names and wants to approach the MEC with a huge list and potentially ask for a voluntarily resignation. It will also be a list of folks to pursue recalling the current block reps or at least supporting future candidates who will promise to be more responsive to their own block's wishes.
Again--I am not anti-ALPA. I just think some of the MEC has gotten too isolated from the folks they represent. One way or another--there need to be some changes. Some new faces would go a long way towards restoring some trust.
FDX28 has pretty much spearheaded the effort. The plan is once a decent number of names are collected then the MEC will be approached. If a reasonable number isn't garnered, the list will be disposed of. Nobody is going to get hung out individually. There are plenty of us who have spoken openly about the changes we'd like to see.
As for signs--I'd have to defer to FDX28 and the other guys on the point. I think its a good idea. Anyone wanted to publicize the email should feel free to do so. Remember...Union starts with U. Let folks know you want some changes.
So..why I am a lazy slug and not doing it for you? I just got off the phone with Mary Sellers trying to get back on status after my back surgery earlier this month, and she informed me that I need a letter from the doc saying "No restrictions". While I think it might be reasonable for me to go back at week 4 without any issues, I am not sure if the doc will sign will sign a letter saying "cleared hot" with NO restrictions until 1 Jul. So...I know it sounds wierd....but I WANT to get to work but right now I have to go (*&%* pay only until July.
For those that don't know--when you get surgery you automatically go NOQ. That means you can't move an R day or make any changes to your calendar at all. I wanted to move some R days from the first of the month (where they'll have to be sicked) to the latter part (where I might be able to fly). So--you end up sort of stuck locked out of VIPS and unable to do squat. Time off is nice...but no F-15s since January, and no 727 flying since ealry May...I'm about ready to do some flying again. While I fly for a living, not for fun, I do think I'm pretty lucky to have a job I actually miss when I'm away from it for a while.
05-31-2007 | 03:52 PM
#19
Line Dawg
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: 777 Captain LCA
NF,
Tony is correct in the recall petition won't work for the MEC chairman. However, the organizer of the petition is gathering the names and wants to approach the MEC with a huge list and potentially ask for a voluntarily resignation. It will also be a list of folks to pursue recalling the current block reps or at least supporting future candidates who will promise to be more responsive to their own block's wishes.
Again--I am not anti-ALPA. I just think some of the MEC has gotten too isolated from the folks they represent. One way or another--there need to be some changes. Some new faces would go a long way towards restoring some trust.
FDX28 has pretty much spearheaded the effort. The plan is once a decent number of names are collected then the MEC will be approached. If a reasonable number isn't garnered, the list will be disposed of. Nobody is going to get hung out individually. There are plenty of us who have spoken openly about the changes we'd like to see.
As for signs--I'd have to defer to FDX28 and the other guys on the point. I think its a good idea. Anyone wanted to publicize the email should feel free to do so. Remember...Union starts with U. Let folks know you want some changes.
So..why I am a lazy slug and not doing it for you? I just got off the phone with Mary Sellers trying to get back on status after my back surgery earlier this month, and she informed me that I need a letter from the doc saying "No restrictions". While I think it might be reasonable for me to go back at week 4 without any issues, I am not sure if the doc will sign will sign a letter saying "cleared hot" with NO restrictions until 1 Jul. So...I know it sounds wierd....but I WANT to get to work but right now I have to go (*&%* pay only until July.
For those that don't know--when you get surgery you automatically go NOQ. That means you can't move an R day or make any changes to your calendar at all. I wanted to move some R days from the first of the month (where they'll have to be sicked) to the latter part (where I might be able to fly). So--you end up sort of stuck locked out of VIPS and unable to do squat. Time off is nice...but no F-15s since January, and no 727 flying since ealry May...I'm about ready to do some flying again. While I fly for a living, not for fun, I do think I'm pretty lucky to have a job I actually miss when I'm away from it for a while.
Tony is correct in the recall petition won't work for the MEC chairman. However, the organizer of the petition is gathering the names and wants to approach the MEC with a huge list and potentially ask for a voluntarily resignation. It will also be a list of folks to pursue recalling the current block reps or at least supporting future candidates who will promise to be more responsive to their own block's wishes.
Again--I am not anti-ALPA. I just think some of the MEC has gotten too isolated from the folks they represent. One way or another--there need to be some changes. Some new faces would go a long way towards restoring some trust.
FDX28 has pretty much spearheaded the effort. The plan is once a decent number of names are collected then the MEC will be approached. If a reasonable number isn't garnered, the list will be disposed of. Nobody is going to get hung out individually. There are plenty of us who have spoken openly about the changes we'd like to see.
As for signs--I'd have to defer to FDX28 and the other guys on the point. I think its a good idea. Anyone wanted to publicize the email should feel free to do so. Remember...Union starts with U. Let folks know you want some changes.
So..why I am a lazy slug and not doing it for you? I just got off the phone with Mary Sellers trying to get back on status after my back surgery earlier this month, and she informed me that I need a letter from the doc saying "No restrictions". While I think it might be reasonable for me to go back at week 4 without any issues, I am not sure if the doc will sign will sign a letter saying "cleared hot" with NO restrictions until 1 Jul. So...I know it sounds wierd....but I WANT to get to work but right now I have to go (*&%* pay only until July.
For those that don't know--when you get surgery you automatically go NOQ. That means you can't move an R day or make any changes to your calendar at all. I wanted to move some R days from the first of the month (where they'll have to be sicked) to the latter part (where I might be able to fly). So--you end up sort of stuck locked out of VIPS and unable to do squat. Time off is nice...but no F-15s since January, and no 727 flying since ealry May...I'm about ready to do some flying again. While I fly for a living, not for fun, I do think I'm pretty lucky to have a job I actually miss when I'm away from it for a while.
Albie, have you checked into the TDNIF program. You have to show up, pay only, work in a department of flight ops, but you dont burn sick leave or have to go on LTD. Just a thought. Get well.
