Kalitta vs. Atlas
 

With the new CBA at Atlas, which doesn't appear to have been received well by the majority, how do the two companies, currently, compare. Interested in the comparison between Kalitta and the 747(and perhaps 777) ops at Atlas. Thank you for any input.

Not well received is an understatement.

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Rumor is that Atlas will be purchasing K4 within a few years. So, shouldn’t really matter in the medium-to-long term.

Troll much? There may be many people at Atlas that know the companies plans, hopes and dreams but there are less than 5 people at Kalitta with that knowledge. They have been pretty good at keeping that information to themselves for over 30 years. Just because one side might fantasize about it doesn't make it true. Could it happen? Yeah sure. I might also grow a horn, a tail and start vomiting rainbows and farting glitter as a pretty unicorn, but it's not likely.

We definitely won some improvements, but it took six years! Management destroyed any semblance of a positive work environment here.

The most glaring issue now is the abysmal joke called retirement. Management insured that this place will be a hit and run outfit.

I just flew with a really good, young (30) aviator who is leaving for Delta. We can't afford to lose these sharp guys. He was here just over a year.

About the same with some minor variations, depending on how you value work rules, etc. Retirement and disability are lacking here. Work rules may be a little worse at K4. Like someone else said we could have been in the same position shortly after K4 got their contract. Others can be more specific and correct as necessary. Good luck with whatever move you're thinking about making.

Wrong company it's UPS who are in talks to purchase K4.

Not gunna happen, been hearing that for a long time.

K4 will be the next acquisition as Atlas has the money and ambition to do so. Atlas will have the ACMI segment cornered and potential customers will have nowhere else to go for lift. M&A was mentioned 5 times on the last investor call.

It would be the best for both pilot groups and companies.