bifff15

I have used both Emerald Coast and Adam Hughes. Emerald Coasts HR prep was an all day event with multiple practice interviews, and includes unlimited phone instruction as well as telephonic updates. All done very well.
Adam does both sim and HR prep. He also does a very good job.
However the nod goes to Emerald Coast for HR prep. Unbeatable product with a money back guarantee (unheard of in this industry).

SaltyDog

Turn needle & ball is all you need. ADF is plenty enough for navigation plus you can listen to the ball games. What else does one need? What is an HSI and what does a purplish red line have to do with aviation??


But then I read Freightpuppy's response. If you are getting the interview, you have a high likely hood of being in the 727. It is essentially out of the training business (727's almost all parked) and is used very often now for sim evals. In the unlikely event you get the 8.... Gouge wise: The DC-8 sim at UPS uses a Collins EFIS (EADI top, EHSI bottom) and Mode Select Panel that is nearly identical in function to the EMB-120. So former Bro drivers would feel pretty much at home looking at the EFIS. Probably Saab drivers as well.

Archie Bunker

Words of wisdom.

Any of you guys out there that are balking at spending the money for an interview and sim prep, just keep reading the above quoted text. You won't regret it.

nichale

Thanks everone for the input. It's great that people can do well without paying for the sim prep. However, for the UPS it's worth the gamble and pay for the sim prep, any extra effort might be an advantage.

bifff15

Just think of it as insurance. How much is required for overkill? As much as required to give you the best chance of getting hired. You decide what is enough. I always think if I do just a little more it will be enough to set me apart from the masses.

CactusCrew

Just stay at a Holiday Inn Express the night before, you'll do fine ... !!!

Slice

You are gay... Getting released this week...rsv *****, here I come.

FliFast

"The HSI on the 72 and -8 are BEHIND the yoke and not visible in a normal sitting position. What ^%&^%& engieer thought of this. No wonder the military never bought these jets in any number, they would never pass flight test with that configuration."

This is the case in almost every transport category jet I've flown.

Thank goodness the airlines didn't have to compete with the military in purchasing the thousands of 727s and DC8s that have been put in service for the last 40 years.

kouk

This is off the beaten path and not helping the guys that need to find info on sims. However, since I work and fly at Edwards AFB, I went out and looked at the KC-135, KC-10, C-5, C-130 and C-17 on the ramp - all HSIs were clearly visible from a normal sitting position. Even the T-43 (737-200) was more than 50% visible, and the old 747-300 NASA Shuttle Carrier had a clearly visible HSI. B-52, good, B-1, good, B-2, can't remember, that was 5 years ago, but I'm sure its good.

Line pilots will accept what is given to them and train to overcome deficiencies in the jet. In flight test, deficiencies are unacceptable and corrected early in the design process. Deficiencies get to the line when the manufacturer refuses to spend the money to fix it, or does not have the engineering solution at the time to get around the problem, which is why some jets have longer training programs than others.

$350 for a sim is dirt cheap, wish I knew about that before hand. Think of it this way, if the sim is what causes you to lose the job, your $350 savings would have cost you a nearly $5 million career with UPS (average 15 years of earnings and benefits). I think $350, or even $800 is worth a better chance at the $5 mil prize.

viktorbravo

I think the above is good advice. You are getting checked in a sim, not an airplane, and if you have been flying magenta lines for a while it would be very smart to take a couple of hours to get that scan back. After 10 years on the magenta line I wouldnt have a prayer going in cold and flying a 727 sim.

When I was job hunting, I didnt bat an eye at spending 8 grand on a 737 type (when it was required to apply to SWA) and didnt hesitate to spend a few hundered bucks for some decent interview/sim prep. If it helps you get the job, you will recoupe the expenditure very quickly.

I do agree with one comment though, If you have been driving a Brasilia around for 8 hours a day for the last few years you should have no issues with the 727 sim once you get used to the pitch sensitivity. But still, why not spend a few hundered bucks for some piece of mind so you can actually be relaxed in the interview sim?