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Old 07-15-2007, 07:11 AM   #1  
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I will be working on Saturday and will miss the LOA Road Show.

Will there be a way to review/view the meeting? (Not just an overview from the union??) Is it true that Price Waterhouse will be in attendance, makng a presentation, and answering questions?

Also, anyone willing to ask a few questions? I am unsure whether questions sent to my LEC would actually be asked/answered during the meeting.

I am interested in moving to one of the proposed FDA's. Right now, without actual knowledge, many unknowns, and the current wording of the LOA, I am planning on voting against the LOA.

As for attending the next hub turn meeting (and asking the questions myself), I am also working but not passing through MEM during that time frame.
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I will be working on Saturday and will miss the LOA Road Show.

Will there be a way to review/view the meeting? (Not just an overview from the union??) Is it true that Price Waterhouse will be in attendance, makng a presentation, and answering questions?

Also, anyone willing to ask a few questions? I am unsure whether questions sent to my LEC would actually be asked/answered during the meeting.

I am interested in moving to one of the proposed FDA's. Right now, without actual knowledge, many unknowns, and the current wording of the LOA, I am planning on voting against the LOA.

As for attending the next hub turn meeting (and asking the questions myself), I am also working but not passing through MEM during that time frame.
I'm planning on attending. Post your questions. Maybe we'll be able to get them answered and I'm sure the "highlights" and opinions of the meeting will get posted here.
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Old 07-15-2007, 03:02 PM   #3  
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What kind of medical coverage will guys have and how much will it cost?
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:20 PM   #4  
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Post your questions.
Here are a few:

-Where is the minority opinion?

-What were the companys' openers?

-What were our openers?
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-How far apart were our openers versus the companys' openers?

-What compensation packages did we use as a model to shape our openers?

-Which schools were visited by the union and the company?

-What do English schools cost?

-What is the acceptance rate for american children who apply to these schools?

-What hospitals were visited by the union and the company?

-Why are there no health care details in the LOA?

-Why are there no specifics in the GT section?

-Why did we allow the company to take back all of the previous moving package language?

-What would be an example of a pilot whose situation would make taking option #1 a better choice than #2? Who was this meant to benefit?

-Why did we give back househunting tickets?

-Why did we give back monthly 100-lb shipments?

-Why did we give back compensated relocation days off?

-Why did we give back the 79CH relocation allowance?

-Why did we give back proration of seed money payback in the event of non-completion of time requirements?

-Why did we give up the three 1000-lb shipments?

-With the impossibility of moving all of one's household goods, why did we give back the storage language and allow the company to impose a storage limit?

-Why did we give up the $250,000 of insurance for replacement of our household goods?

-Why did we give up the automobile shipment?

-Why did we give up reimbursement for pet transportation?

-Why did we give up reimbursement for lease cancellation for up to 6 months' rent?

-Why did we give up a relocation allowance for people leaving the FDA?

-Why did we give up marketing assistance for the sale of our homes?

-Why did we give up the 3rd party home purchase plan?

-In light of all of these concessions we made, plus allowing the company to be immune from foreign courts, how did we arrive at the conclusion that we had no leverage to ask for a package that more-closely resembles other FedEx people in Hong Kong or most other expat packages in Hong Kong?

-Why did we not negotiate seperate LOAs for CDG and HKG?

Those are the only ones that come to mind at the moment.
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Just one more:
Reading the LOA it appears a pilot will not be in any pay status while being positoned to or from the FDA, is this true?

Understandable for a move but inexcusable for a STV. DH compensation, one more give back.
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Here are a few:

Those are the only ones that come to mind at the moment.
How long is this meeting scheduled for???
I agree. These questions need to be answered. Maybe you can send them to the MEC ahead of time so they can prepare answers.
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BrownGirlsYUM: Excellent post!!

I would add:

What is our status with regard to labor laws when living in France or Hong Kong?
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BrownGirlsYUM: Excellent post!!

I would add:

What is our status with regard to labor laws when living in France or Hong Kong?
I think if you read the addendum to the LOA it will answer your question. It appears that French or HK laws would not apply (RLA only) if you sign the addendum.
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I think if you read the addendum to the LOA it will answer your question. It appears that French or HK laws would not apply (RLA only) if you sign the addendum.
Another big reason why the company wants this LOA in my opinion. Great article posted earlier on how Ryan Jet crews based in France are subject to French labor laws. FedEx would not want us working under French labor laws.
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So I guess flying out of an FDA, domestic rest rules are used under many conditions and generally you won't be compensated for GPEs?

Section 4.EE. Minimum Guarantees and Other Pay Provisions - Grid Penalty Event (GPE)
This paragraph applies to all international trips EXCEPT for international trips constructed under Section 12.D.1.b. or c.

Section 12.D. Hours of Service - International Provisions
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Except as provided in Section 12.D.1.b. and D.1.c. (below), international provisions apply to flight activities of pilots that originate from, have a destination of, or make an intermediate stop at a location outside the contiguous 48-states. A scheduled international flight activity that actually operates entirely within the 48 contiguous states shall be governed by the domestic provisions contained in Section 12.C.
Domestic rest limitations may be applied to SIBA and FDA trips operating entirely outside the locations described in Section 12.D.1.c.i. (below), provided that they are scheduled not to exceed domestic block hour and on-duty limitations. Such trips must also meet the following:
no duty period is scheduled to exceed 6 block hours or 11 hours on duty; and
if a duty period actually exceeds 6 block hours or 11 hours on duty, that duty period may be operationally extended as follows:
(a) to domestic limitations if the preceding rest period was at least a minimum domestic legal rest period; or
(b) to international limitations if the preceding rest period was at least a minimum international legal rest period; and
if a duty period actually exceeds 6 block hours or 11 hours on duty, the pilot shall receive an international legal rest period after that duty period.
a rest period of at least 18 hours after an intercontinental deadhead shall be scheduled prior to the operation of a live flight.
an international legal rest period must follow a deadhead to and from a SIBA or FDA base in a trip on which a pilot, other than a pilot on SIBA or FDA, deadheads to and from a SIBA or FDA base to perform flying described in Section 12.D.1.b. (above) (i.e., the pilot is not assigned to the SIBA or FDA location but is assigned to fly a trip at such a location).
Trips in the following categories may be scheduled in accordance with domestic parameters rather than international parameters. When such trip(s) are built, they will be designated as being subject to domestic or international parameters, as applicable.
trips that operate entirely within Alaska; or within or between, Canada, Mexico, Bermuda and Puerto Rico, or between any of these locations and the contiguous 48 states.
FDA trips operated exclusively within the “European theater.” For purposes of this provision, Section 12.D.1.c.ii., the “European theater” includes airports west of 40 degrees east longitude, north of 35 degrees north latitude and east of 10 degrees west longitude. If a pilot, other than a pilot on FDA, deadheads to and from an FDA to perform flying described in this paragraph, an international legal rest period shall follow each of these deadheads, but in any case a rest period of at least 18 hours after an intercontinental deadhead shall be scheduled prior to the operation of a live flight.
If the Company opens a new FDA to operate trips that are not in the European theater, the parties shall meet and discuss whether trips assigned to that base should be eligible for construction under Section 12.D.1.c. If the Company and the Association agree, trips in that new FDA may be constructed under Section 12.D.1.c.
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