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HerkyBird 07-26-2007 02:49 AM

I voted NO because there was no box to check for "PUCK NO"!! Not no way, not no how ... If I'd voted YES on that P.O.S., I'd have had to moonlight scrubbing toilets in a frat house just to regain some self-esteem.

CaptainMark 07-26-2007 04:26 AM

talked to 3 guys yesterday who changed to "yes" after the STV change...and 2 who voted "yes' because they are actually wanting to go and will need the $2700...the knew about this forum and laughed..they said noone on there is going to bid it anyway...anyone else getting similar responses?

NoHaz 07-26-2007 05:13 AM

"no one on there will bid it"
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 202551)
talked to 3 guys yesterday who changed to "yes" after the STV change...and 2 who voted "yes' because they are actually wanting to go and will need the $2700...the knew about this forum and laughed..they said noone on there is going to bid it anyway...anyone else getting similar responses?


sad part is many of us "on here" wanted to bid it but, it is just not workable. I feel sorry for those few that come "rumblin, stumblin" into it without much thought other than "I want that 2700"

DLax85 07-26-2007 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 202551)
talked to 3 guys yesterday who changed to "yes" after the STV change...and 2 who voted "yes' because they are actually wanting to go and will need the $2700...the knew about this forum and laughed..they said noone on there is going to bid it anyway...anyone else getting similar responses?

I'm seeing 1/3 passionate "No" voters, 1/3 "not gonna vote" and 1/3 "I don't know much about it, I just skimmed the LOA once, and I guess I should support the union - Yes" voters.

It is amazes how much the "Yes" voters don't know about the LOA...and none of them seem passionate about their vote.

I think this thing might come very close to 50/50 and that's why people need to keep "getting the facts out" to the very end.

CaptainMark 07-26-2007 06:14 AM

i agree with you..a lot of us don't care about it...it's summer and they are doing family stuff..not going to bid it anyway..etc..etc..i would guess maybe 1800 total votes...but who knows?

Laughing_Jakal 07-26-2007 08:12 AM

John Kerry Moment
 

Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 202551)
talked to 3 guys yesterday who changed to "yes" after the STV change...and 2 who voted "yes' because they are actually wanting to go and will need the $2700...the knew about this forum and laughed..they said noone on there is going to bid it anyway...anyone else getting similar responses?

I had "intended" on bidding an FDA.

I actually wanted to vote for the LOA (until I saw it), before I voted against it.:eek:

Since only the last vote counts anyway, the yes voters can always change to no....then they can truly say "I actually voted "For" the LOA, before I voted against it!"

MaxKts 07-26-2007 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 202551)
talked to 3 guys yesterday who changed to "yes" after the STV change...and 2 who voted "yes' because they are actually wanting to go and will need the $2700...the knew about this forum and laughed..they said noone on there is going to bid it anyway...anyone else getting similar responses?

Great - we have people changing their votes before they see the actual wording of the change. The company lawyers know how to word things that on the surface look like -you are getting a free BMW- what it actually says is -you are paying for the BMW but someone else gets to drive it.

Doesn't matter what they change the whole LOA needs to go and be redone- my vote is still NO!

Bitme 07-26-2007 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 202551)
talked to 3 guys yesterday who changed to "yes" after the STV change...and 2 who voted "yes' because they are actually wanting to go and will need the $2700...the knew about this forum and laughed..they said noone on there is going to bid it anyway...anyone else getting similar responses?

This cracks me up. The last minute scrambling with the change to std's is exactly why we have leverage. Somebody's nervous and they're nervous for a reason; that reason is the leverage. This whole thing is a joke, but it will pass.

Boom Boom 07-26-2007 08:59 AM


I'm seeing 1/3 passionate "No" voters, 1/3 "not gonna vote" and 1/3 "I don't know much about it, I just skimmed the LOA once, and I guess I should support the union - Yes" voters.
That seems to be the reponse I have gotten as well... The only GOOD thing I will add is that most of the DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT crowd have come back with "But I was told to vote against it.." But I still run into the 'If the Union says it is good then I should vote with the union...' :mad:

MD11HOG 07-27-2007 06:55 PM

No. To the Negitiating committee:I do get emotional about being taken away from my family for 90 days. I guess you guys don't.


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